A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

And first of all you have done more wisely then simply / in that you have altered Jeromes words. For where he sayeth / wherein doth a bishop differ from an elder / but only in ordaining: you say a bishop doth excel all other ministers. &c. I report me here unto your conscience / whether you did not of purpose change Jeromes his sentence / because you would not let the reader understand what odds is between S. Jeromes bishops in his days / & between our ⟨p. 58⟩Lord Bishops. For then the bishop had nothing above an elder or other minister / but only the ordaining of the minister. Now he hath a thousand parishes / where the minister hath but one. For the matters also of the substance of the ministry / the bishop now excommunicateth / which the minister can not / absolveth or receiveth into the church / which the minister can not. Besides divers other things which are mere civill which the bishop doth / and which neither bishop nor other minister ought to do. I say I report me to your conscience / whether you altered Jeromes words to this end / that you would keep this from the knowledge of your reader or no. For answer to the place / it is an evil argument to say the bishop had the ordaining of the minister. Ergo he had the election of him / the contrary rather is a good argument / the bishop had the ordaining of the minister / therefore he had not the election of him. For ordination and election are divers members of one whole / which is the placing of the pastor in his church / and one member can not be verified of an other / as you can not say your foot is your hand. I will not deny / but that sometimes these words may be found confounded in Ecclesiastical writers / but I will show you also / that they are distinguished / and that the election pertaineth to the people / and ordaining unto the Bishop.

And fyrst of all you haue done more wisely then simply / in that you haue altered Ieromes wordes. For where hee sayeth / wherein doth a byshoppe differ from an elder / but only in ordayning: you say a byshop doth excell all other mynisters. &c. I report me heere vnto your conscience / whether you dyd not of purpose chaunge Ieromes hys sentēce / because you wold not let ye reader vnderstand what oddes is betweene S. Ieromes bishops in his dayes / & betwene our ⟨p. 58⟩Lord Bishoppes. For then the byshop had nothing aboue an elder or other minister / but only the ordayning of the minister. Now he hath a thousande parishes / where the minister hath but one. For the matters also of the substaunce of the ministerie / the bishop now excommunicateth / which the minister can not / absolueth or receyueth into the church / which the minister can not. Besides diuers other things which are meere ciuill which the byshop doth / and which neither byshop nor other minister ought to doe. I say I reporte me to your conscience / whether you altered Ieromes wordes to thys ende / that you would keepe thys from the knowledge of your reader or no. For answere to the place / it is an euill argument to saye the byshop had the ordayning of the minister. Ergo he had the election of hym / the contrary rather is a good argument / the byshop had the ordayning of the minister / therefore he had not the election of hym. For ordination and election are dyuers members of one whole / which is the placing of the pastor in hys church / and one member can not be verified of an other / as you can not say your foote is your hand. I will not deny / but that sometimes these wordes maye bee founde confounded in Ecclesiasticall wryters / but I will shewe you also / that they are distinguished / and that the election pertayneth to the people / and ordayning vnto the Byshop.