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A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The third reason is / that they which consent in wearing the surplices / consent also in all other points of doctrine / and they that do not wear it / do not consent / not so much as amongst them selves. If this consent in the points of religion be in the surplice / cope. &c. tell us I beseech you / whether in the matter / or in y• form / or in what hid and unknown quality standeth it? if it be in that the ministers use all one apparel / then it is marvel that this being so strong a bond to hold them together in godly unity / that it was never commanded of Christ / nor practised of prophets or apostles / never of no other reformed churches. I had thought wholly / that those things which the lord appointeth to maintain & keep unity with / & especially the holy sacraments of baptism / & of the lords supper / had ben strong enough to have first of all knit us unto the lord / & therefore also to his doctrine / & then one of us to an other / & that the dissenting in such a ceremony as a surplice. &c. neither should nor could in those that pertain unto God / break the unity of the spirit / which is bound with the bond of truth. And although there be which like not this apparel / that think otherwise then either their brethren / or then in deed they ought to do / yet a man may find greater dissent amongst those / which are united in surplice & cope. &c. then there is / amongst those which wear them not / either with them selves / or with them that wear them. For how many there are that wear surplices / which would be gladder to say a mass / than to hear a sermon / let all the world judge. And of those y• do wear this apparel / & be otherwise well minded to the gospel / are there not which will wear the surplice / & not the cap: other ye will wear both cap & surplice / but not the tippet / & yet a third sort / ye will wear surplice / cap / & tippet / but not the cope. It hath ben the manner always of wise & learned men / to esteem of things by the causes / & not by the event / & that especially in matters of religion / for if they should be esteemed of the event / who is there which will not condemn the Israelites battle against Aye / & afterward against 1the Beniamites? which notwithstanding / the cause which was Gods wist / and Gods commandment justifieth.
The third reason is / yt they which consent in wearing the surplices / consent also in all other poynts of doctrine / and they that do not weare it / do not consent / not so much as amongst them selues. If this consent in the poynts of religion be in the surplice / cope. &c. tel vs I beseche you / whether in the matter / or in y form / or in what hid and vnknowne quality stādeth it? if it be in that the ministers vse all one apparell / then it is maruell that this being so strong a bond to holde them togither in godly vnitie / that it was neuer commaūded of Christ / nor practised of prophets or apostles / neuer of no other reformed churches. I had thought wholy / that those things which the lord appoynteth to maintaine & kepe vnitie with / & especially the holy sacramēts of baptisme / & of the lords supper / had ben strong enough to haue first of all knit vs vnto the lord / & therfore also to his doctrine / & then one of vs to an other / & that the dissenting in such a ceremony as a surplice. &c. neither should nor could in those that pertaine vnto God / breake the vnitie of the spirit / whych is boūd wyth the bond of truth. And although there be whych like not this apparell / that thinke otherwise then either their brethren / or then in dede they ought to do / yet a man may finde greater dissent amongst those / whych are vnited in surplice & cope. &c. then there is / amongst those which weare them not / either wt them selues / or wt them that weare them. For how many there are that weare surplices / which would be gladder to say a masse / than to heare a sermon / let all ye world iudge. And of those y do weare this apparel / & be otherwise wel minded to ye gospel / are ther not which wil wear ye surplis / & not ye cap: other ye wil weare both cap & surplice / but not the tippet / & yet a third sort / ye wil weare surplice / cap / & tippet / but not the cope. It hath ben the maner alwayes of wise & learned men / to esteme of things by the causes / & not by the euent / & that especially in matters of religion / for if they shuld be estemed of the euent / who is there which wil not condemne the Israelites battell against Aye / & afterward against