A18078:465
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Let us see of discipline and government / which we may see to be committed to those / which have the preaching of the word / and to others also which did not preach the word / when S. Paul saith that the elders which govern well / 1are worthy double honour / especially those which travail in the word. Where he appointeth the government to the ministers of the word / and to those also that were not ministers of the word. And thereupon it followeth / that the ministers of the church are not severed one from an other / as you sever them / because some have the ministration of the word and sacraments only / and some with the administration of the sacraments and word / have also the government and discipline in their hands / but clean contrariwise S. Paul distinguisheth them / and showeth that all the ministers in the church have the government / but all have not the word to handle / so that he distinguisheth the ministry into that / which is occupied in the word and government / and into that which is occupied in the government only. But in this distinction you do not only forget S. Paul / but you forget your self. For if S. Paul speak in that place of those that meddle with the ministering of the word and sacraments only: why doth the bishop which is one of the ministers that S. Paul speaketh of (being the same that pastor is) why I say doth he meddle with the discipline and order of the church / seeing that belongeth not to him by your distinction? why doth also the archbishop (whom you say is a bishop) meddle with it? and thus you see you need no other adversary then your self / to confute you.
Let vs see of disciplyne and gouernment / which we may see to be committed to those / which haue the preaching of the word / and to others also which dyd not preach the worde / when S. Paule sayth that the elders which gouerne wel / 1are worthy double honor / especially those which trauaile in the word. Where he appoynteth the gouernement to the ministers of the worde / and to those also that were not ministers of the worde. And thereupon it followeth / that the ministers of the church are not seuered one from an other / as you seuer them / because some haue the ministration of the worde and sacramentes only / and some with the administration of the sacramentes and word / haue also the gouernement and disciplyne in their handes / but cleane contrariwise S. Paule distinguisheth them / and sheweth that all ye ministers in the church haue the gouermnent / but all haue not the worde to handle / so that he distinguisheth the ministerie into that / whiche is occupyed in the worde and gouernment / and into that which is occupyed in the gouernment only. But in this distinction you do not only forget S. Paule / but you forget your selfe. For if S. Paule speake in that place of those that meddle with the ministring of the word and sacraments only: why doth the bishop which is one of the ministers that S. Paule speaketh of (being the same that pastor is) why I say doth he meddle with the discipline and order of the church / seeing that belongeth not to him by your distinction? why doth also the archbishop (whome you say is a bishop) meddle with it? and thus you see you neede no other aduersary then your selfe / to confute you.