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Name: A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…
Author: Thomas Cartwright

A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.

Thomas Cartwright 1535–1603printed by John Stroud?, 1573

[4], 224 p. · 181k words · STC 4712 · ESTC S120563

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Reply › To the next section contained in the. 77. 78. and a piece of the. 7…: To the next section contained in the. 77. 78. and a piece of the. 79. page.Reply › To the next section contayned in the. 77. 78. and a peece of the. 7…: To the next section contayned in the. 77. 78. and a peece of the. 79. page.

Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.

[ Earlier:677–692 of 1,019

:677p. 133

Besides that / how can they say that it is for want of sufficient ministers / when as there be put out of the ministry men that be able to serve God in that calling / and those put in their rooms / which are not able / when there are numbers also which are fit to serve and never sought for / nor once required to take any ministry upon them? If therefore it were lawful to plead want of able ministers / for this dumb ministry which is altogether unlawful / yet would this plea never be good / until such time as both those were restored which are put out / and all other sought forth and called upon which are fit for that purpose.

Besides that / howe can they say that it is for want of sufficient ministers / when as there be put out of the ministerye men that be able to serue God in that calling / and those put in their roumes / whych are not able / when there are numbers also whych are fit to serue and neuer sought for / nor once required to take any ministery vpon them? If therfore it were lawfull to plead want of able ministers / for this dumbe ministery whych is altogither vnlawfull / yet woulde thys plea neuer be good / vntill suche time as bothe those were restored whych are put out / and all other sought forth and called vpon whych are fit for that purpose.

:678p. 133–134

Again / it can not be said justly / that they have taken these reading ministers ⟨p. 134⟩/ until such time as better may be gotten / for if the church could procure able ministers / and should desire that they might be ordained over them / they can not obtain that / considering that these reading ministers have a free hold / and an estate for term of their lives in those churches / of the which they are such ministers: so that by this means / the sheep are not only committed to an idol shepherd / I might say a wolf / and speak no otherwise then Aug. speaketh / in that a not preaching minister hath entrance into the church / but the door also is shut upon him / and sparred against any able minister / that might haply be found out.

Againe / it can not be sayde iustly / that they haue taken these reading ministers

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