A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

Now that I have spoken generally of holy days / I come unto the apostles and other saints days / which are kept with us. And though it were lawful ⟨p. 153⟩for the church to ordain holy days to our saviour Christ or to the blessed Trinity: yet it is not therefore lawful to institute holy days to the apostles and other saints / or to their remembrance. For although I confess as much as you say in the. 153. page / that the church of England doth not mean by this keeping of holy days that the saints should be honoured / or as you allege in the. 175. and. 176. pages / that with us the saints are not prayed unto / or that it doth propound them as meritorious / yet that is not enough. For as we reason against the popish purgatory / that it is therefore naught / for as much as neither in the old Testament nor in the new / there is any mention of prayer at any time for the dead: so may it be reasoned against these holy days ordained for the remembrance of the saints / that for so much as the old people did never keep any feast or holy day for the remembrance either of Moses or Daniel / or Job / or Abraham / or David / or any other / how holy or excellent so ever they were: nor the apostles nor the churches in their time never instituted any either to keep the remembrance of Stephen / or of the virgin Mary / or of John Baptist / or of any other notable and rare personage / that the instituting and erecting of them now / and this attempt by the churches which followed / which have not such certain and undoubted interpreters of the will of God / as the prophets and apostles were which lived in those churches / is not without some note of presumption / for that it undertaketh those things which the primitive church in the apostles times (having greater gifts of the spirit of God then they that followed them had) durst not venture upon.

Nowe that I haue spoken generally of holy dayes / I come vnto the apostles and other saints dayes / whych are kept wyth vs. And thoughe it were lawfull ⟨p. 153⟩for the church to ordaine holy dayes to our sauioure Christe or to the blessed Trinity: yet it is not therfore lawfull to institute holy dayes to the apostles and other saintes / or to their remembrance. For although I confes as muche as you say in the. 153. page / that the church of England doth not meane by thys keping of holy dayes that the saintes shoulde be honoured / or as you alledge in the. 175. and. 176. pages / that wyth vs the saints are not prayed vnto / or that it doth propoūd them as meritorious / yet that is not enough. For as we reason against the popish purgatorie / that it is therfore naught / for as much as neyther in the olde Testament nor in the newe / there is any mention of prayer at any time for the dead: so may it be reasoned against these holy dayes ordained for the remēbrance of the saintes / that for so much as the old people dyd neuer keepe any feast or holy day for the remembrance eyther of Moses or Daniel / or Iob / or Abraham / or Dauid / or any other / how holy or excellent so euer they were: nor the apostles nor the churches in their time neuer instituted any eyther to kepe the remembrance of Stephen / or of the virgin Mary / or of Iohn Baptist / or of any other notable and rare personage / that the instituting and erecting of them nowe / and thys attempt by the churches whych folowed / whych haue not such certen and vndoubted interpreaters of the will of God / as the prophets and apostles were whych lyued in those churches / is not wythout some note of presumption / for that it vndertaketh those thyngs whych the primitiue churche in the apostles times (hauing greater giftes of the spirite of God then they that folowed them had) durste not venter vpon.