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I Have spoken of this bread before in general / and if Master Doctor did not disagree with him self / we are here well agreed. For first he saith it skilleth not what bread we have / and by and by he saith / that he wisheth it were common bread / and assigneth a great cause which the book of service likewise assigneth / which is to avoid superstition. And it is certainly known by experience / that in divers places the ignorant people y• have been misled in popery / have knocked and kneeled unto it / and held up their hands / whilst the minister hath given it / not those only which have received it / but those which have been in the church / and looked on. I speak of that which I know / and have seen with my eyes. An other reason is alleged by Master Bucer / which is / that there being some thicker substance of bread / and such as should move and stir up the taste better / the consideration of the mind which is conveyed by the senses / might be also the more effectual / and so the fruit of receiving greater. By the way note that either Bucers censures upon the book of service be falsely ascribed unto him / or be corrupted / or else were not even in his own time here ⟨p. 165⟩thought good / substantial / and sufficient / when there is some cause by Act of Parliament afterward found (I mean in the second book of king Edward) to mislike wafer cakes / and to change them into common bread. How so ever it be / that circumstance would be well marked / that it was one thing to talk of a wafer cake in the use of the supper in king Edward days before they were justly abolished / & an other thing now being revoked after they were removed.

I Haue spoken of thys bread before in generall / and if Maister Doctor dyd not disagree wyth hym selfe / we are heere well agreed. For first he sayth it skilleth not what bread we haue / and by and by he sayth / that he wysheth it were common bread / and assigneth a great cause which the booke of seruice lykewise assigneth / which is to auoyde superstition. And it is certaynely known by experience / that in dyuers places the ignoraunt people y haue beene mysled in popery / haue knocked and kneeled vnto it / and helde vp theyr handes / whilest the mynister hath geuen it / not those only which haue receyued it / but those which haue bene in the churche / and looked on. I speake of that whiche I knowe / and haue sene wyth my eyes. An other reason is alleaged by Mayster Bucer / which is / that there being some thicker substance of breade / and such as should moue and stirre vp the tast better / the consyderation of the mynde which is conueyed by the senses / might be also the more effectuall / and so the fruite of receyuing greater. By the way note that eyther Bucers censures vppon the booke of seruice be falsely ascribed vnto hym / or be corrupted / or else were not euen in hys owne tyme heere