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A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Unto the section contained in the. 245. and. 246. pages.
Vnto the section contayned in the. 245. and. 246. pages.
Here master Doctor / contrary to the protestation of the authors of the Admonition / which declare that for the abuses / and corruptions / they dare not simply subscribe / saith / that therefore they will not subscribe / because they are required by lawful authority. Which how both presumptuous and uncharitable a judgement it is / let all men judge / especially upon this matter which hath been declared. And where master Doctor would upon the marginal note / prove that we have good discipline / because we have good doctrine / and thereupon doth wonderfully triumph / he playeth as he of whom it is said / meden labon cratei carteros, that is / having gotten nothing / holdeth it fast. For can M. doctor be so ignorant / that this manner of speech (doctrine and discipline can not be severed) is used for that / that they ought not to be severed? when we say (following S. Paul) that we can do nothing against the truth / do we not mean that we ought to do nothing / nor can do nothing lawfully against it? And do not all men know when we say that a man can not be separated from his wife / but for the cause of adultery / that we mean he ought not / or he cannot lawfully? Therefore this is / as (all men may see) a mere cavil / and triumph over his own shadow. There is no brag of suffering made by the authors of the admonition. The modesty wherewith he hath defended this cause / can not be hidden. That he would have other men punished for well doing / when he is not content that the open wrongs which he doth / should be once spoken of / I have showed how unreasonable it is.
HEre maister Doctor / contrary to the protestation of the authors of the Admonition / whych declare that for the abuses / and corruptions / they dare not simply subscribe / sayth / that therfore they will not subscribe / because they are required by lawfull authoritye. Whych howe bothe presumptuous and vncharitable a iudgement it is / let all men iudge / especially vpon this matter whych hath bene declared. And where maister Doctor wold vpon the marginall note / proue that we haue good discipline / because we haue good doctrine / and thervpon doth wonderfully tryumphe / he playeth as he of whome it is sayde / meden labon cratei carteros, that is / hauyng gotten nothyng / holdeth it fast. For can M. doctor be so ignorant / that thys manner of speach (doctrine and discipline can not be seuered) is vsed for that / that they ought not to be seuered? when we say (folowing S. Paule) that we can do nothing against the truth / doe we not meane that we ought to do nothyng / nor can do nothyng lawfully agaynst it? And do not al men knowe when we say that a man can not be separated from hys wyfe / but for the cause of adultery / that we meane he ought not / or he cannot lawfully? Therfore thys is / as (all men may see) a mere cauill / and triumph ouer hys owne shadow. There is no brag of suffering made by the authors of the admonition. The modesty wherwith he hath defended this cause / cā not be hiddē. That he wold haue other men punished for wel doing / when he is not content that the open wrongs whych he doth / shuld be once spoken of / I haue shewed how vnreasonable it is.