A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

And whereas he saith that it is all one / to say that the election of the minister must be made by the church / and to say / it must be made by the people: It is ⟨p. 218⟩a great oversight to make the part / and whole all one / seeing the people be but one part of the church / and the minister and the other governors are / albeit not the greatest / yet the principallest part. I grant that sometimes a part is taken for the whole / and so we do call sometimes the governors of the church the church / and sometimes the people. But where the question is of the propriety of these speeches (the church and the people) there all men that have any judgement / can easily put a difference. The rest of those articles are answered in the discourse of the book. Besides that / the faults which are found with the untrue gathering of them / are not taken away by M. Doctor / but only in confident and bold asseverations. And if I should say any thing / I should but repeat their words.

And wheras he sayth that it is all one / to say that the election of the minister must be made by the church / and to say / it must be made by the people: It is ⟨p. 218⟩a great ouersyghte to make the parte / and whole all one / seeing the people be but one parte of the churche / and the minister and the other gouernoures are / allbeit not the greatest / yet the principallest part. I graunt that sometimes a part is taken for the whole / and so we do call sometimes the gouernors of the churche the churche / and sometimes the people. But where the question is of the proprietye of these speaches (the churche and the people) there all men that haue any iudgement / can easely put a difference. The rest of those articles are answeared in the discourse of the booke. Besydes that / the faultes whych are found wyth the vntrue gathering of them / are not taken away by M. Doctor / but only in confident and bolde asseuerations. And if I should say any thyng / I should but repeate their wordes.

In the view of the second admonition / M. Doctor doth as it seemeth of purpose / cull out those things which he hath spoken on before / and in repeating of them / referreth his reader unto his book. Divers other matters there are / of great weight / which he speaketh not of / if he do approve them / it had been well he had signified his liking: if he do not / that he had confuted them. And if he travailed so heavily of bringing forth of this book / that it was as heavy a burden unto him / as Solomon saith a fond word is unto an unwise man: he might have taken day to answer it. Now by this slender answering of it / or rather not answering at all / but only asking how this and that is proved / (where as being proved / it is unreproved of him) he doth his cause more harm / then he is aware of. For unless his proofs be joined with his expulsions / imprisonments / and with all that racket which he maketh in Cambridge to the uttermost of that his authority will stretch unto / he may be well assured / that their driving out / will draw in the truth / and their imprisonment / will set the truth at greater liberty / and thereby prove it self to be neither Papistry / nor Anabaptistry / Donatistry / Catharism / nor any other heresy which are by due correction repressed. But as for the truth of God / the more it is laden / the straighter it standeth / and the more it is kept under / the more it enforceth it self to rise / and will undoubtedly get up / how great so ever the stone be / which is laid upon it. And albeit he had no leisure to answer the matters which required his answer / yet he carpeth at by matters / and asketh who are meant by the politic Machevils.