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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
hath / to charge me with the falsifying of the Popes words / and how his ability to defend the Popes decree / doth not answer his desire.
hathe / to charge me with the falsifiyng of the Popes wordes / and how his habilite to defende the Popes decree / doothe not answer his desire.
As for the reasons I brought to prove / that the placing off bishops in villages, and small cities, could no more bring them in contempt, then the shining of the sun, or falling off the rain in villages as well as in cities, breedeth contempt off those benefits: or the name or authority of father, given to poor men as well as rich, maketh that ordinance off ⟨p. DXXVI⟩God nothing set by: he answereth not a word. Where I further alleged the foresight / and wisdom of God / which should receive a great wound if in instituting for every church a Bishop / he should not have foreseen this inconvenience / which the Ans. upon the Popes authority maintaineth: he asketh when and where? I have (I trust) showed him now both. although he if he had ether understood / or remembered what he wrote before twice / or thrice / when with Jerome he propoundeth unto us / that Bishop / and elder were all one by Gods word: he should not have fallen into this extreme boldness / of denying every thing which is enemy unto his unadvised assertions. For if it be the institution off God / that every church should have a teaching elder / and that elder (according to Jeromes saying allowed off him) were a bishop: it must needs follow / that to have a bishop in every church / is the institution of God. And because the D. boweth so casely under the authority of men / that he esteemeth it the best proof: let him understand that this was the judgement off two of the most famous men / which our land brought forth thes many years. And the same also executed for the testimony off the truth off god: whereof one of them amongest other things / suffered also for this cause now in hand.
As for the reasons I browght to proue / that the placing• off bishops in villages, and small cyties, coulde no more bringe them in contempte, then the shininge of the sonne, or falling off the raine in villages as vvell as in cyties, breedeth contempte off those benefites: or the name or autoritie of father, gyuen to poore men as vvell as riche, maketh that ordinance off