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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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First I requiring authority to prove / that by the word 1church is understanded a Province: he answereth all learned writers so expound it. He dealeth but hardly which having all: will not vouchsafe to show one. for as for those which he maketh show of afterward: it shall appear how little they serve his purpose. His next answer is / that it is no unaccustomed thing to call the church through a province, by name of the metropolitan seat of the province. If this were accustomed / and in those times wherein Cornelius / and Cyprian lived (for otherwise it is nothing): why doth he let his cause fall / for want of showing it. For where he saith / he hath showed it before: there is no word founding that ways. And Eusebius saying that he did fulfil the office off a Bishop 2in the city of Rome / will not suffer the D. to lurk in that corner: onles peradventure he will say / the church in the city off Rome / was spread through the whole Province. And when Ruffine showeth / that the Bishop of Rome about a hundred and fifty years after (at what time the Bishops had spread the 3wings of their dominion) had but the churches in the suburbs / and round about Rome: is it a like thing / that Cornelius had rule off all churches of Italy? For although the custom / which the Nicene Council speaketh of / should have been even from Cornelius time: yet it is clear / that Cornelius had not government off the churches off all Italy / but only of those in the suburbs of Rome. For answer unto thes bare / and bold sayings▪ I refer my self partly to that before spoken / that thes words must be understanded nether off Province / nor diocese / but only of particular assemblies: partly / to that which followeth.
First I requiring autoritie to proue / that by the worde 1churche ys vnderstanded a Prouince: he answereth all learned writers so expound yt. He dealeth but hardly vvhich hauing al: will not vouchesafe to shewe one. for as for those which he makethe shewe of afterwarde: yt shall appeare how litle they serue his pourpose. His nexte answer is / that it is no vnacustomed thing to call the churche throwghe a prouince, by name of the metrapolitane seate of the prouince. If this were accoustomed / and in those times wherin Cornelius / and Cyprian lyued (for otherwise yt is nothing): why doth he let his cause fall / for wante of shewing yt. For where he saithe / he hathe shewed yt before: there is no word founding that waies. And Eusebius saying that he did fulfill the office off a Bishop