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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where for confirmation off thes answers he saith / otherwise a bishop should be exempted from all controlment off Synods, and other, as well as of archbishops: the answer is easy. For although Cyprian say no one Bishop can be judged off an other bishop: yet he denieth not but he may be judged off the church. And although no one bishop have authority over him: yet a Council off bishops may correct him. And that this is one off those judgements off Christ Cyprian meant off / and that in those words he doth not reserve the judgement off the bishop offending / unto the day of the ⟨p. DXLVIII⟩general judgement: may be showed by that he saith / Christ set them bishops in their charges. As therefore Cyprian calleth the placing off a bishop in his charge by the church / by the elders thereof / and the next bishops / the placing of Christ: so he meaneth that judgement given against a bishop offending / by the church / and Synods / is the judgement of Christ. That out off Cyprian / wherein the weight off the argument lieth (every Bishop must rule his own flock him self, as he that shall make account off his deed unto the Lord) he passeth by. After to the words off Cyprian (that nether he, nor his fellows used compulsion towards any, appointed any law to any: seeing that every one set over the church, hath in government thereof free disposition 1of his own will / whereof he shall give account unto the lord: (he saith / I left out that which giveth the solution / and thereupon according to his custom / picketh a quarrel to translate the whole sentence: Yet nether showeth one word / nor can show left out / to make for him / against me. Only he saith undoubtedly Cyprian in saying he would not deal with other bishops, &c. meaneth those churches and bishops which he had nothing to do with: which is very strange / seeing he hath before made him archbishop / almost overall the world.
Where for confirmacion off thes answers he saith / otherwise a bishop should be exempted from all controlement off Synodes, and other, as well as of archbishops: the answer is easy. For althowgh Cyprian say no one Bishop can be iudged off an other bishop: yet he denieth not but he may be iudged off the church. And althowgh no one bishop haue autoritie ouer him: yet a Councell off bishops may correct him. And that this is one off those iudgementes off Christ Cyprian ment off / and that in those wordes he doth not reserue the iudgement off the bishop offending / vnto the day of the