A18080:1072
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Because I love not that compass off words / which the D. delighteth in / I concluded shortly / and yet sufficiently to the understanding 1off any / that doth not willingly blindfold him self. My argument is: The best deciding off controversies, was in the apostles time: but that was not by archbishops: wherefore the best deciding of controversies, is not by archbishops. for proof that it was not by archbis. / I set down that there were no archbishops then. Unto this deformed face off reason (as he calleth it) let us see how formally he answereth. First he saith / we are not bound to the form of government, used by the Apostles: and therein referreth ⟨p. DLXXII⟩him self to that he hath / and shall say: where also let him take his answer. Secondly / that although the Apostles had not 2the name off Archbishops / yet they had the office: which I have showed to be a shift of the Papists. Then it is to be observed / how he proveth that the apostles had the office of an archbishop / 3and in what good logic. Archbishops have the direction off many churches, the ending off controversies, &c. the Apostles had the same: therefore the Apostles were archbishops. by this reason a man may prove not only divers / but contrary things to be all one: seeing contraries have divers things wherein they agree. So that first this kind off reasoning hath the fault of those ridiculous arguments / which the D. propoundeth pag. 316. secondly it taketh for granted / which is the question. For he presumeth that the Archbishops office keepeth the church in godly quietness: which is debated. Thirdly / to prove the Apostles authority in the churches (which is not in question) he hath made a great muster of testimonies: to prove the archbishops / not a word. After he citeth Ambrose / to prove that Apostles are bishops. It is great marvel if he keep good order in the church / for whose establishment the Answ. is constrained / thus to confound / and make a broil off all: and it is before confuted.
Because I loue not that compas off wordes / which the D. delighteth in / I concluded shortly / and yet sufficiently to the vnderstanding