The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And albeit it be no marvel / although he which striveth with the truth / should be stricken with such a giddiness off spirit / that he should not be able to discern / not only between the morning / and noon days / but not between noon days and midnight: yet because the smattering in logic which this book maketh show of / might be so much as not to be so grossly abused: in casting with my self wherefore he should allege this / in the end it came to my mind / that by thes words (the elder is contained in the bishop) he would have understanded / that the elder is contained under the bishops government. If he mean so / there is as great oversight in his grammar / as before in logic: ⟨p. DXCIII⟩ogicke: considering that the tongue (as I suppose will bare no such sense / certain is that the author will not suffer it. For he assigneth as reason why the apostle did not speak of the elder / for that an elder is contained in the bishop: and therefore speaking of the one / he needed not to speak of the other. Whereas if he should mean / that he would not speak of an elder / because he was in the government off the bishop / to order as he thought good it had been a witless saying / unworthy of Jerome (considering that the apostle speaketh of a deacon which is under a bishop). Which shall be answer to his like dealing with Chrysostom. That Jerome speaketh of an archdeacon in that place / I have before declared.

And albeit yt be no meruaile / althowghe he which striueth with the trwth / shoulde be stricken with suche a guiddines off spirite / that he shoulde not be hable to discerne / not onely betwene the morning / and noone daies / but not between noone daies and midnight: yet because the smattering in logick which this booke maketh shew of / might be so much as not to be so grossely abvsed: in casting with my selfe wherfore he shoulde alledge this / in the ende yt came to my minde / that by thes wordes (the elder is conteined in the bishop) he woulde haue vnderstanded / that the elder is conteined vnder the bishops gouernement. If he meane so / there is as great ouersight in his grammer / as before in logicke: ⟨p. DXCIII⟩ogicke: considering that the toung (as I suppose will bare no such sense / certeine ys that the autor will not suffer yt. For he assigneth as reason why thapostle did not speake of the elder / for that an elder is conteined in the bishop: and therfore speaking of thone / he needed not to speake of thother. Wheras if he should meane / that he would not speake of an elder / because he was in the gouernement off the bishop / to order as he thowght good yt had bene a witles saying / vnworthy of Ierome (considering that thapostle speaketh of a deacon which is vnder a bishop). Which shall be answer to his like dealing with Chrysostome. That Ierome speaketh of an archdeacon in that place / I haue before declared.