A18080:1112
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Now to the Ans. shifts. The first is out off Jerome to Rusticus / that every ecclesiastical order is subject unto her governors: whereof I would gladly know what he concludeth. If an Archbishop: there is no appearance. And the Ans. being so bountiful in translating / hath here cut off the sentence in the m•ddle: for what purpose / let other judge. my answer is ⟨p. DXCIX⟩therefore / that he must prove by Jerome that there was an archbishop / or that Jerome allowed off one: before the sentence off Jerome can profit the Archbishop. His second is / that the testimony off Jerome touching the equality off the bishops, doth not hurt the authority off the Archbishop: considering that it is not denied but that every bishop, and minister are equal as touching the ministry, but not in order, and policy. which distinction although I have confuted / and showed 1also immediately before / that it is clean against the mind off Jerome: yet here it is to be observed / that as his argument out off the place against the Luciferanes for the Archbishop / is borrowed of the Papists: so this shift is Hardinges / whereby he would avoid the force off the bishops answer. Harding saith that touching honour, dignity, and power off bishoply order and office, and off priesthood, as good, and as great a bishop in 2that respect is the one, as the other: and the bishops off thes little towns, have as great a merit in regard off any their virtues, and as great power concerning the order off priesthood as the bishop off Rome, &c. Yet touching power and authority off regiment, the Patriarchs off Constantinople, &c. be above the bishops off other dioceses. The bishop to this shift answereth with Erasmus / who saith that Jerome seemeth to match all bishops together, as if they were all equally the Apostles 3successors. And further allegeth an other place of Erasmus: where out off that place off Jerome he affirmeth plainly / that the bishop off Rome is above other bishops, only by riches. If by riches only: then not by government / as Harding and the Ans. affirm. And where Harding under this word merit / would hide him self as doth the Ans. the bishop answereth / by merit is meant without all question preeminence: which he D. allegeth / is used off Harding against the bishop: so it is Latomus (an other Papists) shift against Bucer.