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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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After admitting James Moderator / he faith being then bishop by the Scholiast's judgement, it was not unmeet he should be moderator within his charge. I have showed that an Apostle can not be changed into a bishop: and if he could / yet it was unmeet that S Peter should lief his right / whereto (he saith) he was ordained off God, to use from the ascension unto his dying day Therefore it is against him directly: but how against me, he nether doth / nor can show. Beside / it is absurd that an Apostle should give place unto a bishop / because the bishop is in his charge: considering that an Apostle is in his charge / in what church soever he come / and that as an Apostle: to whom the bishop (unless he were by consent chosen to govern the synod) ought to give place. And if it be true that it is meet the bishop of the place where the synod is holden, should govern the synod: why hath he made this before a necessary cause off 1having an archbishop / to govern Synods? The other place off the Acts / maketh for this matter. For if James assembled the lders / and ruled that meeting wherein it was determined what S. Paul ⟨p. DCXIII⟩should do / him self being present / which was (as shall appear) in nothing inferior unto Peter): he might by the same right moderate the assembly in Peters presence. Where I show that 2this is the superiority which is amongest bishops / and ministers: he answereth / it is so, but not all. But out of the scripture (whereof the question is here) he neither doth / nor can show other superiority: so that here his cause falleth flat.
After admiting Iames Moderator / he faithe being then bishop by the Scoliastes iudgement, yt was not vnmeete he should be moderator within his charge. I haue shewed that an Apostle can not be changed into a bishop: and if he coulde / yet yt was vnmeete that S Peter should leefe his right / wherto (he saith) he was ordeined off God, to vse from thascention vnto his dying day Therfore it is against him directlie: but how against me, he nether doth / nor cā shew. Beside / it is absurde that an Apostle shoulde giue place vnto a bishop / because the bishop is in his charge: considering that an Apostle is in his charge / in what churche soeuer he come / and that as an Apostle: to whom the bishop (vnlesse he were by consent chosen to gouerne the synode) owght to giue place. And if yt be trew that it is meete the bishop of the place where the synode is houlden, should gouerne the synode: why hath he made this before a necessarie cause off