The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

And that it may yet appear even to the simple reader / that they had the same cause against Pigghius / and the Papists which we against the D. I offer to his consideration / besides the two flat testimonies of M Barnes and Hooper ^ebefore cited / M. Wickleve's tenth article in thes words ^fThere be 12 disciples of Antichrist: Popes, Cardinals, Patriarchs, Archbishops, Bishops, ⟨p. DCXVII⟩Archdeacons, Officials, Deans, Monks, Canons, Fryers and Pardoners. If the D. say that Wickleve spake that not off the offices / but off their abuse in popery: that shift will not serve / considering that he leaveth out priests / and Deacons. Whereof the priest especially / doing more mischief then diverse which are reckoned: yet because he occupied the place off the pastor in every congregation / which was the ordinance off God / and was only a depravation / and deformity off the true ministry: he spareth him. the other because they were devised / partly harbingers to prepare his way / partly puruc•ers to entertain his estate: he marked with the black coal off Antichristianitie. If it be further said / that Wickleve should by this means condemn the estate off a bishop / which S. Paul alloweth off: it is manifest that he bet against the lord bishop / which ruleth over other ministers in a diocese: considering that he leaveth the priest / the deformity of the teaching minister / which minister is all one (as hath been showed) with S. Pauls Bishop. Beside this reason / they may as well say he spake not against the office off Pope / Canons / Monks / Friars / Pardoners / but only against the abuse: which is absurd. This to the learned may better appear by Pigghius discourse: which confesseth that the Waldenses / and Wickleve left the orde• off priesthood (as they call it) and that the whole question between them was not whether lord bishops / and Archbishops did their duty / but whether they were lawful estates. Whereby appeareth that whosoever was the D. merchant / these wares come from one off the filthiest puddles off popery: and withal that as soon almost / as there was any set and apparent estate of the church / which proclaimed open war against Antichrist / the letters off defiance were as well sent against the