The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

all see how that change of presidents which he derideth / and will have my only fantasy, should beside the scripture alleged / and use off the churches in France / have the approbation off these godly learned men. But when in deed he deride the their judgement written: I have small hope that he will bear any reverence to it only spoken. Neither require I that he esteem any thing theirs / which can not be convinced out off their writings: let him wrest and wring / wind and turn his worst.

all see how that chaunge of presidētes which he derideth / and will haue my onely phantasie, should beside the scripture alledged / and vse off the churches in Fraunce / haue the approbation off these godly learned men. But when in deede he deride the their iudgement written: I haue smale hope that he will beare any reuerence to it onely spoken. Neither require I that he esteme any thing theirs / which can not be conuinced owt off their writinges: let him wreste and wring / wind and turne his worst.

But that we be not strait with him / admit Calvin so thought: doth it follow that because he esteemed a singular ⟨p. DCXXXII⟩body off a church / scarce 20. small parishes lying round about / whereof every off the ministers at the least meet once a week / both for exercise off prophecy / or interpretation off the word / and to hold common consultation: that therefore he esteemed the whole diocese off London / or Province off Canterbury where there are many thousand parishes / might conveniently grow into one particular body / to be governed off one Pastor. Truly this is but cold reasoning. Where I charged him with unfaithful dealing, for leaving out that which Calvin noteth (that the office off Archbis. and Patriarch was rarely used) to cover his unfaithfulness: he allegeth the later edition, which hath not that sentence. Which is partly answered ^abefore: but ad this also that even the noted book which he followed / had thus much off that sentence / Although it may not be passed by in this disputation. There wanted only this (it was very rarely used) and that through the printers fault: considering that without it there is no sense / nor knot with that before or after. Therefore if there had been any love of the truth in him: meeting with such a gap / he would have sought to have made it up in the later edition. His shift (Calu referreth that to the patriarch, and not to the Archbishop / because there was small cause off exercising his authority: is only said / and in deed contrary to thanthors words and meaning. Words / for that giving that note off his disputation there, which is both off the Archbishop / and Patriarch: it must follow by all likelihood / that the note also is of them both. Against his meaning manifestly: for he placing both their offices / in propounding matters unto the Synods / which for their hardness could not be ended of few: and giving them nothing to do more then their fellows / but that: it must follow that the oftenest Synods wherein the archbishop was president / being rare / and but twice a year: his office also was off very rare use. Whereby appeareth that Calvins mind was to show / that the archbishops and Patriarchs office / endured only but the time off the Synod: which ended / he had no authority but in common with other bishops / until the next synod.