A18080:1163
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where I gave the Catechising unto the Pastor: I will have it meant where there is no Doctor: otherwise I have in the second 1edition amended that / assigning it as more proper to the D. So that the Doctor being instituted to the Ephes. he whom they called Catechist / which taught the grounds off religion / is likewise: albeit S. Pa. calleth all manner of preaching Catechising. 2That public reading in the church is as solemn a matter as Catechising the youth, is a piece off the former frenzy (reading is as good as preaching) already confuted. That a reader hath been counted necessary is said without proof: and if it were / it was falsely counted: there being no necessary ministry not specified in the scripture. And when they were first / notwithstanding them / the church ministry was (as hath been showed) divided into bishops / elders / and deacons: so that they came not then so much as into account of the ministries. If they be convenient at any time: that there is scripture to warrant them / even as the Sexton that kept the church door key hath been *showed. That the archbishops, archdeacons, and our ⟨p. DCXXXV⟩bishops have no succour by this / being supposed the principalest ministries / and therefore such as ought to have been commanded: hath been likewise disputed / where thes coleworts are answered. 4That the Deaconship as I take it is no government, but a simple service, is idly alleged / contrary to nothing here set down. It may seem against that alleged before / where I comprehend it under the ministers which govern only: which I did not to set it 5in the same kind off government with the elders / but for that it ordering the church money / and overseeing the poor / might in a general signification be so called.
Where I gaue the Catechising vnto the Pastor: I will haue it ment where there is no Doctor: otherwise I haue in the second