The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

If the D. can show one letter / that I ever wrote or spake / that the place to the Ephes. containeth all things necessary for the church: ¹then this that he writeth may have place. If not: then he is unworthy to receive answer / seeing he hath been given to understand / how far we extend that place. Therefore whether there were Public churches, Pulpits, Schools, universities in Christian congregations, pertaineth not to the question / although it hath partly / and might further be showed: only I give the reader warning that Judg. •. off those said to handle the pen, whilst I gave to much credit to translations / was not so fitly alleged / to prove universities. The three next divis. are idle repetitions / before answered. Where I showed that one high priest was ordained over the Jews, only that he might represent our S. Christ, chief off ²the whole church: the D. answereth / he was also for policy, and government. His reason (our Saviour Christ came not to take away ecclesiastical policy) •s vain: as though there could be no ecclesiastical policy / onles one minister were ruler over a whole nation. After he citeth Calvin in the same faith he is wont. For his words (no reason compelleth to extend that to the whole world profitable in one nation) are only understanded off that government in Jury before our Sau. Christs coming. which is manifest in that he saith / that example ought not to be followed, considering it was done in respect that the high priest was a ³figure off our Saviour Christ, and the priesthood being translated that right is likewise. And after: that example off the priests ⟨p. DCXXXVI⟩government over the whole nation / was but for a time.⁴

If the D. can shew one lettre / that I euer wrote or spake / that the place to the Ephes. conteineth all thinges necessarie for the church: ¹