A18080:1173
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where I say that this oversight off limits / may be without an archbishop: he saith / it may be best by him: whereof let the reader upon the former allegations off both Sides / judge. where he affirmeth it no good argument against the archbishop, that he doth not keep the old Canons out off use with us: seeing our archbishop holdeth off those in times past / and hath for his chiefest defence that there where archbishops in times paste: all see / if there be not the same causes off them now that were then / how at the least this hold is thrown down. Where I show that our archbishop in giving licences to preach in a dozen dioceses at the least breaketh the same order for the keeping whereof he was ordained: he answereth / it is profitable. Where beside the untruth abefore showed / he condemneth that order off the Council off Constantinople / that bdecreed against that wandering: and overthroweth one off the causes whereupon the metropolitans office standeth. cThat / part off the difference of the metropolitan from other bishops, rose off the commodity off the city, and for that it was honoured with the Emperors court: is manifest. by the increase and decrease / lifting up and throwing down ⟨p. DCXLIII⟩off the authority off the Patriarch all seats. That the Emperor might make the metropolitan seat which he would, I well understood, seeing I set it down dbefore: but the question to / where it is meetest the Archbishop should be / if there must be one. And my reason was / forsomuche as the place most fittest / hath well and haply wanted him: therefore our church may be well without him. His trifling in the two translations / argueth that to fill up / he careth not if his reader peel straws: for nothing •ether off them / is against that I set down.
Where I say that this ouersight off limites / may be withowt an archbishop: he sayth / yt may be beste by him: whereoff let the reader vpon the former allegations off both Sydes / iudge. where he affirmeth yt no good argument againste the archbishop, that he doth not kepe the olde Canons owt off vse with vs: seing our archbishop houldeth off those in times past / and hath for his cheifest defense that there where archbishops in times paste: all see / if there be not the same causes off them now that were then / how at the least this hould is throwne downe. Where I shew that our archbishop in giuing licences to preach in a dousen dioceses at the leaste breaketh the same order for the keping vvheroff he vvas ordeined: he answereth / yt is profitable. Where beside the vntruth