A18080:1174
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The cavil against my order / because I come from the council of Antioch back to Cyprian: is too simple. For it is not (as his) for one 1matter / but for divers; beside that / I reprehended him for that it skilleth much to observe the order off times / when question was off the time / and antiquity of the archbishop / Whether Cyprian's words do flatly forbid any one bishop to have authority over an other / much less over all: I leave it be judged off that ebefore. *likewise how honest an exception it is against this sentence / that it was spoken in a Council where an error was decreed: also in fwhat sense I called Cyprian metropolitan: further how untrue it is that ghe which denieth the authority of one bishop over an other, exempteth the ministers either from civil, or ecclesiastical subjection, or punishment. Lastly / what a hcavil it is / that when the correction of the disorders in the ministry is given to the civil magistrate, the prince thereby is overcharged. Now if the reader find upon the discourse before / that the church well governed in Cyprian's time / had no archbishop nor metropolitan that had authority over others / when there was most need / considering there was then no christian bishops: Then it is manifest / that there is now less cause / when we have a Christian magistrate: which alleged here by me / the D. him self (although he had good will to bite at) durst not come near.
The cauil against my order / becawse I come from the councel of Antioche backe to Cyprian: is too simple. For yt is not (as his) for one 1matter / but for diuers; beside that / I reprehended him for that yt skilleth much to obserue the order off times / when question was off the time / and antiquitie of tharchbishop / Whether Cyprians wordes do flatly forbid any one bishop to haue autoritie ouer an other / muche les ouer all: I leaue yt be iudged off that