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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where he saith that the doctrine off the Gospel is much more purely professed by ours, then it was by the old Bishops: and for proof allegeth here thes Councils / and g otherwhere / that 1almost all the most ancient fathers, yea the most off the ancientest bishops believed an abode upon earth a thousand years after the rising again: that almost all the Greek both bishops and writers and the most part off the Latins, were spot with free will, merits, invocation off Saints, &c. Where first let it be observed / how rough (as in other places before) be is with the old writers / when it serveth for his purpose: and what equity there is in this man which crieth out / if I do but tread as it where off one off their heels / when he at one stroke almost all / at once / by condemning them off error in the matter off justification (the foundation off religion) and off free will (which he h saith is likewise) striketh them deadly in the head. Secondly 2observe / that he doth it untruly. For beside that he is not able to show the most part off both Greek and Latin most ancient writers after Papias, infected with that error off a 1000. years: to say that the most part off the most ancient bishops were so / is a ⟨p. DCLIII⟩notable slander. And seeing that the writers speak doubtfully of merits / invocation off Saints / and free will / sometime for / and sometime against them: likewise seeing that divers things under there names are none off theirs / but heretics / which partly corrupted their books / partly set forth other under their credit: they deserved to be somewhat more gently handled. And yet these are they forsooth / whose authority is the best argument in divinity: 3and from which although we appeal to the scriptures / and in appealing cry in the D. ears / yet he is deaf / and will not hear. But I think from henceforth we shall hear no more off Tertullian saith it &c. onles reason be annexed / and that out off the word off God.
Where he saith that the doctrine off the Gospell is muche more purely professed by ours, then it was by the oulde Bishops: and for proofe alledgeth here thes Councells / and g otherwhere / that