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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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To that alleged off the train off waiting men before and after, condemned in all bishops in the person off Samosatenus 1he answereth / he was condemned for having Soldiers, and for walking the streets. which is frivolous. For there was no more likelihood off a captain in him; then in our bishops / saving that where he was waited upon with spears / peradventure according to the serving mens fashion off the country: ours are followed with swords and bucklers. He is generally there spoken against for his pomp: as that he was like unto men in worldly dignity, and made him a throne or pulpit like a Prince. And for his men / not only because they had spears but because they were in great number. Now if this were damnable in a bishop to be like a prince or worldly potentate: it is manifest that our bishops for their train / are under the same condemnation. Gregory also although 2not in the same chap. off Ruffin / entered as well as George, and before him / with a troupe off men into the bishopric off Alexandria / out off which Athanasius was wrongfully put: and that is with other things reproached him / although they were lent by the governors. He saith it appeareth by these examples / that bishops had riches and authority: which is absurd / seeing him self confesseth / and the story maketh mention / that they enjoyed this by unjust means / and church robbery. I grant the bishop was steward off great abundance / but not to his own use.
To that alledged off the traine off vvaiting men before and after, condemned in all bishops in the person off Samosatenus 1he answereth / he was condemned for hauing Souldiours, and for walking the streets. which is friuolous. For there was no more likelihood off a capitaine in him; then in our bishops / sauing that where he was waited vpon with speares / peraduenture according to the seruing mens fashion off the countrie: oures are folowed with swordes and bucklers. He is generally there spokē against for his pompe: as that he vvas like vnto men in vvorldly dignitie, and made him a throne or pulpit like a Prince. And for his men / not onely because they had spears but because they were in great nomber. Now if this were damnable in a bishop to be like a ptince or vvordly potentate: yt is manifeste that our bishops for thir traine / are vnder the same condemnation. Gregorie also althowgh