The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Where also he would make the reader believe / that the Synod called Athanasius Lord off the priests of Alexandria: it is but to abuse him: when that word (as the greek) is given to any of mean estate / and is as much with us as Sir. And not with us alone / but in diverse other countries / which speak so to any of mean condition: yet the D. turneth it always my Lord. Whereby he lordeth those / which have no lordship to maintain them nor man to wait upon them: yea (as I have showed) thus we shall have my Lord gardenkeper: then which what can be more ridiculous. And that it was not the Councels meaning / to make Athanasius Lord off the elders in Alexandria▪ appeareth manifestly by that I have alleged off the elders off Alexandria: which call him their fellow minister without any other title. Wherein they should be too unmannerly and undutiful / if he were (as it seemeth the D. would bear us in hand) their Lord. Which dallying may yet better appear / in that Alexander bishop off Alexandria writing to Athanasius / when he was but deacon / or elder at the most: writeth. To Athanasius Lord and beloved son: So that if Dominus must needes be a Lord: then my Lord bishop must by the same reason that he would be called Lord / call the elders or Deacons / Lords likewise. So there shall be Lord Bishop / Lord Elder / Lord Deacon: which as it is ridiculous / so it tuneth not with the bishops note off honour / which the D. fighteth for. And this is also answer to my Lord Paulinus: beside that Lord is not referred unto the pronoun yours, as if the council had said Athanasius was the elders Lord. And if it were / yet if he vvill thereupon conclude / any superiority of him above the elders off his church: he must by the same reason say / that one simple bishop had superiority over ⟨p. DCLVII⟩an other / seeing Eusebius bishop / calleth Paulinus his fellow bishop his Lord: which is absurd and condemned off him self.

Where also he would make the reader belieue / that the Synode called Athanasius Lord off the priests of Alexandria: yt is but to abuse him: when that word (as the greke) is gyuen to any of meane estate / and is as much with vs as Syr. And not with vs alone / but in diuerse other countreis / which speake so to any of meane condition: yet the D. turneth it alwaies my Lord. Wherby he lordeth those / which haue no lordship to mainteine them nor mā to waite vpon them: yea (as I haue shewed) thus we shall haue my Lord gardenkeper: then which what can be more ridiculous. And that it was not the Councels meaning / to make Athanasius Lord off the elders in Alexandria appeareth manifestly by that I haue alledged off the elders off Alexandria: which call him their fellovv minister withowt any other title. Wherin they should be too vnmanerly and vndutifull / if he were (as it seemeth the D. woulde beare vs in hand) their Lord. Which dalying may yet better appeare / in that Alexander bishop off Alexandria writing to Athanasius / when he was but deacon / or elder at the most: writeth. To Athanasius Lord and beloued son̄e: So that if Dominus must needes be a Lord: then my Lord bishop muste by the same reason that he would be called Lord / call the elders or Deacons / Lordes likewise. So there shall be Lord Bishop / Lord Elder / Lord Deacon: vvhich as it is ridiculous / so it tuneth not with the bishops note off honour / which the D. fighteth for. And this is also answer to my Lord Paulinus: beside that Lord is not referred vnto the pronoune yovvres, as if the councell had said Athanasius was the elders Lord. And if it were / yet if he vvill therupon conclude / any superioritie of him aboue thelders off his church: he must by the same reason say / that one simple bishop had superioritie ouer