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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The next division I leave to the reader. Where against the 1D. slander off the Admonitions intent to take away princes, I showed that his practise against us, is the same with the Pharisees against our Saviour Christ, which being rubbed for their ambition accused him as no friend off Cesar. He answereth that we are not Christ, which is ridiculous / that the case is not like, whereof let the reader judge: seeing he is (as they were) honour pricked. Whether our Archbishop dwell as far asunder almost, from the civil magistrate, as Rome and Jerusalem: let the reader judge off that alleged. likewise what a conning stargazer the D. is / which saw in the star off my forehead that the admonition intended the overthrow off the civill magistrate. The next off the canon off Antioch Council, is answered, but where I show that that Canon is not like to be justifiable considering that it sought falsely, credit off the name off the apostles: he answereth not. Onles this be his answer: that it is the natural Canon off the apostles. And in deed his words so sound / for thus he saith. That canon off the Apostles is repeated in this council: as divers off the Nice be repeated off other councils. Which how shamefully it is spoken: may appear off that we have before disputed off the antiquity off the metropolitan. How dangerously to the overthrow off our faith / whilst we are borne in hand / that there be canons of the Apostles not contained in the canonical scripture: all that have judgement / may understand / and it is in part *before declared. I omit that it is clean contrary to his doctrine off the archbishop: whereby he maketh him an officer / changeable at the will of the Prince. For if that be the Apostles ⟨p. DCLXII⟩Canon: there is no ministry in the hold scripture / which hath better evidence for an unchangeable perpetuity / then it.
The next diuision I leaue to the reader. Where against the 1D. slaunder off the Admonitions intent to take away princes, I shewed that his practise against vs, is the same vvith the Pharisies against our Sauiour Christ, vvhich being rubbed for their ambition accused him as no friend off Cesar. He answerethe that we are not Christ, which is ridiculous / that the case is not like, whereof let the reader iudge: seing he is (as they were) honour pricked. Whether our Archbishop dvvell as far asonder almost, from the ciuil magistrate, as Rome and Ierusalem: let the reader iudge off that alledged. likewise what a cōning stargaser the D. is / which saw in the star off my forehead that the admonition intended the ouerthrow off the ciuill magistrate. The nexte off the canon off Antioche Councel, is answered, but where I shew that that Canon is not like to be iustifiable considering that it sovvght falsely, edite off the name off the apostels: he answereth not. Onles this be his answer: that yt is the naturall Canon off the apostels. And in deede his wordes so sound / for thus he saithe. That canon off the Apostels is repeated in this councel: as diuers off the Nice be repeated off other councels. Which how shamfully yt is spoken: may appeare off that we haue before disputed off the antiquitie off the metropolitane. How dangerously to the ouerthrow off our faithe / whilest we are borne in hand / that there be canons of the Apostels not cōteined in the canonicall scripture: al that haue iudgement / may vnderstand / and yt is in parte