The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

The place added out off M. Zuinglius Ecclesiastes / maketh nothing to the salving off your falsehood: and how far our men (as it pleaseth you to call them) are far from all such sayings / I have before declared. If you show as you say that I do give to little unto the magistrate / I will confess my fault and confess my felse debtor unto you for it. As for the cleanliness off my terms which I use / they are not so foul as the things whereunto they are applied / and the prophet Malachi and S. Paul used them in honester matters then ¹these are: so that if the phrase off the Apostles and Prophets be mannerly enough / there is less godliness in you / which in me hove thus accused them off incivility. Unto the next section pag. 40. I answer not.

The place added owt off M. Zuinglius Ecclesiastes / maketh nothing to the saluinge off your falshoode: and how farre our men (as it pleasethe yow to call them) are farre from all suche sayinges / I haue before declared. Yff yow shew as yow saye that I do giue to litle vnto the magistrate / I will confesse my faulte and confesse my felse detter vnto yow for yt. As for the cleanelines off my termes which I vse / they are not so foule as the thinges wherunto they are applied / and the prophet Malachy and S. Paule vsed them in honester matters then ¹these are: so that iff the phrase off the Apostles and Prophetes be manerly enoughe / there is lesse godlinesse in yow / which in me houe thus accused them off inciuilitie. Vnto the nexte section pag. 40. I answere not.

1. 1Mala. 2. 3. Phil. 3. 8.

To the 44. sect. pag. 41. I grant the corruptions off the church of England to be such / that man in abstaining from the pollutions thereof / ought not so sever him self from those open assemblies / wherein the eternal word off the Lord God is preached and the Sacraments administered / although not in that purity which they ought to be. But I say again / that the name off conventicles is to light and contemptuous for those meetings. For here in is to be considered for what cause they departed. Which was not for the mis liking off any thing which Christ ordained / but through the mislike off that which Antichrist had brought in: not as the Anabaptists did / and the D. surmiseth they did / for that they judged them selves pure and others unpure / but that they feared that their presence where such corruptions were / should be allowance or confirmation off them: not so much forth hatred off the estate / off the church off England / as forth love that they had to a better: nor so much for the hatred off the Ministers which were unjustly set over them / as for the love off those which were unlawfully by the Bishops taken from them. Thedorete declareth how the Catholics which maintained the faith of the Nicene council /