A18080:142
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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If so be that the church of England were reformed (as 1you would bear us in hand) and the Bishops by casting out off their ministers out off their churches / had not given the occasion of such departure: the departure had been more untollerable / And therefore as much as you add to the amplifying of their fault: so much you increase off the sin of the bishops / which without just cause / gave occasion of that division ⟨p. XL⟩There is great difference between the preaching off the Anabaptists and heretics / and the preaching off those brethren. for the Anabaptists and other heretics preachings be with the upholding off their false opinions / and doctrine contrary to Scripture wherewith you are not able to charge them in the least point: but that in all doctrine which you preach truly they preach the same with you. And where you say Disiuncrely that oftentimes the word of god is preached amongest the Anabaptists and heretics, or the Sacraments administered: in those congregations which you make Anabaptists / or like unto them / both the word was preached and the Sacraments Ministered together. And therefore if you did purposely put that (Or) rather then and: then whilst you wrote / your conscience offered you a manifest difference between the Anabaptists and those brethren. And if you did not put it purposely / but mean that in the conventicles off the Anabaptists and heretics both the word off god is preached / and his sacraments administered speaking so precisely: I would gladly know off you what difference you make between the conventicles of the Anabaptists and heretics / and the church off God / seeing that the preaching off the word and ministering off the sacraments are the infallible notes thereof. And this ought to have given you occasion off a softer word / if you had not been driven by the tempest of your affection / rather then led by any quiet and stayed judgement off the truth. Because it is your old wont / and either you can not or will not prove or improve your sayings by the word off god: I will not stand to note how that upon Augustins word only / without any proof out off the word off god / you have here cut a number from the church. if you bind so hard / and lock so fast:
Yf so be that the churche of England were reformed (as 1