A18080:143
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
you should have brought the bond and Key off the word off god / that the conscience (which only looketh unto the word off god) seeing it self in that danger / might be careful to seek how to be delivered. The gloss and the Text vary here. For the one (in saying that it standeth me good name upon, to bring them out which are free will men and hold consubstanstantiation ⟨p. XLI⟩seemeth to deny that there be any such: The other by saying that there are not so many, and that they are not justified: do the indirectly confess it. And if it were not confessed / the thing is so notorious / that albeit I name them not / yet I need not to fear the suspicion off untruth / in that which hath so many witnesses. And where you say there are not so many off them as off those whom you most falsely and slander ouslie call puritans: As I rejoice therein in the behalf off the church off England / so it standeth not by any diligence / good foresight / or discipline off yours / that the church swarmeth not with them / seeing they are suffered to have the highest places in the church / where (with the leaven off their false doctrine) they may sour not one town / as it were three pecks: but whole shires / as it were a whole heap / or fat / or other off the largest measures off the lords meal in our country. And so although they be not by words maintained: yet they are in deed not only maintained / but also by such sufferance in those places rewarded. Unto the nine next sections I answer nothing.1
yow should haue brought the bonde and Keye off the word off god / that the conscience (which onely looketh vnto the word off god) seinge it selffe in that daunger / might be carefull to seeke how to be deliuered. The glosse and the Text varie here. For the one (in saying that it standeth me good name vpon, to bring them owt which are free wil men and holde consubstanstantiation ⟨p. XLI⟩semeth to denie that there be any suche: The other by saying that thēre are not so manye, and that they are not iustified: do the indirectlie confesse it. And if yt were not confessed / the thinge is so notorious / that albeit I name them not / yet I nede not to feare the supition off vntruthe / in that which hathe so manie witnesses. And where yow saye there are not so many off them as off those whom yow most falsely and slaunder ouslie call puritanes: As I reioice therin in the behalffe off the churche off England / so it standeth not by any diligence / good foresight / or discipline off yours / that the churche swarmeth not with them / seinge they are suffred to haue the highest places in the churche / vvhere (vvith the leuaine off their false doctrine) they may sowre not one towne / as it vvere thre peckes: but vvhole shires / as it vvere a vvhole heape / or fatte / or other off the largest measures off the lordes meale in our countrey. And so althoughe they be not by wordes mainteined: yet they are in deede not onelie mainteined / but also by suche sufferance in those places rewarded. Vnto the nine next sections I answere nothinge.