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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Beza showing the true marks of the church / addeth to the two former / the discipline framed according to the word / con. 5. 7. so that whatsoever necessity cometh unto the word and Sacraments in that they are notes / the same cometh also to the discipline by M. Bezaes Judgement. Where he quarrelleth with me / as though I had concluded off particulars only: beside that he ought to know / that man may conclude a particular / either affirmatively or negatively in any figure / not only off particulars but off singulars: he must understand / that a particular instance overthroweth him / which opposeth matter of ceremonies / and government / unto matters off faith / and salvation / generally and without exception. His accusation against me (for calling the holy Sacraments ceremonies) considering that kind off speech / is received amongest the divines / and I had no further occasion to speak off them / then to show they were ceremonies: is utterly unworthy any answer.
Beza shewing the true markes of the churche / addeth to the two former / the discipline framed accordinge to the word / con. 5. 7. so that whatsoeuer necessitie commeth vnto the worde and Sacraments in that they are notes / the same commeth also to the discipline by M. Bezaes Iudgement. Where he quarrelleth with me / as thowghe I had concluded off particulars onelie: beside that he owght to know / that man maie conclude a particular / either affirmatiuely or negatiuely in any figure / not onelie off particulars but off singulars: he must vnderstand / that a particular instance ouerthroweth him / which opposeth matter of ceremonies / and gouernemēt / vnto matters off faithe / and saluation / generally and withowt exception. His accusation against me (for callinge the holie Sacramentes ceremonies) considering that kind off speache / is receiued amongest the diuines / and I had no further occasion to speake off them / then to shew they were ceremonies: is vtterlie vnworthie any answere.
To the third Division pag. 81. The Answerer broileth things together off the infinite mercy off god / and of repentance in a moment / of his unsearchable judgements / having neither head nor foot in his talk. And although he would seem to say somewhat against me: yet in deed he confirmeth that which I have set down. For when he saith / that the doctrine of free will being damnable of it self / doth not prejudice the mercy off God. if he mean that the merry off God embraceth him that being infected with that error / doth by no especial repentance call it back (as that which is unknown unto him:) then he fully agreeth with me. If he mean that upon special repentance / and change off mind in that point / he obtain mercy: he speaketh truly / but to no purpose off that matter which we have in hand.