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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Division 6. pag. 89.
Diuision 6. pag. 89.
IN that you wound up the lords day / with other things which you account merely indifferent neither set any mark in the forehead off it / whereby we might understand that you had any other estimation off it then off the rest: all men do see / that I had Good cause to charge you as I did. And even now your answer which you make / is expressly against that which you have written before. For you affirm that the lords day is in the number off those which not to observe / or once to call in question / is mere madness. But in your former book / after recital of the lords day / and other things which you account indifferent: you close up which this sentence / that there is none so simple, which understandeth not, that the church hath authority in those matters. If it be mere madness for the church not to observe the lords day: ⟨p. LXVI⟩how hath the church authority in that case? And if it may not once move question off it: how can it take order in it? your manner off speech / whereby you would goo between thes two sentences / and help to set at one such manifest contrarieties / are absurd: for you say / that the continuance off the lords day so long, doth prove it necessary to be observed: and yet add / that it may be altered upon great and especial considerations. whereas if it be necessary to be observed / it may not be altered: And if it may be altered / then it is not necessary. Whereby appeareth how truly I gathered off your words / which you can not avoid without such senseless speeches.
IN that yow wounde vpp the lordes daye / withe other thinges which yow accounte merely indifferent neither set any marke in the foreheade off it / whereby we might vnderstande that yow had anie other estimation off it then off the reste: al men doo see / that I had Good cause to charge yow as I did. And euen now yowr answer which yow make / is expresly againste that which yow haue written before. For yow affirme that the lordes daie is in the nomber off those which not to obserue / or once to call in question / is meere madnes. But in your former booke / after recitall of the lordes daye / and other thinges which yow accounte indifferente: yow close vp which this sentence / that there is none so simple, which vnderstandethe not, that the churche hathe authoritie in those matters. Yf yt be mere madnes for the churche not to obserue the lordes daye: