The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

8. Division pag. 92.

8. Diuision pag. 92.

Here he accuseth me of falsifying his words / which have ⟨p. LXXII⟩charged him with saying / that it is an indifferent thing to preach the word of God in churches or houses privately or publicly: wherein he still uttereth his forehead / harder then any steel. For thes being his own words / that the scripture speaketh not a word of preaching or baptizing, openly or privately, at home or in the church: doth he not say the same that I lay unto him. What is indifferent / if that be not / which the scripture saith not a word of / hath not prescribed / hath not determined / hath not appointed? all which phrases he useth / as those which signify the same thing. And when he addeth in the end / that there is none so simple, that understandeth, not that the church hath authority to take order in thes things: doth he not affirm the same? for the church hath authority only in indifferent things to take order. So that it is more manifest then the day / that which I have charged him with ones / he hath said twice / although not in the same / yet in as full words. And where he asketh / whether it be all one to say / the scripture hath not determined whether baptism should be ministered openly or privately, at home or in the church, and to say / the church may make baptism private or public: verily they are in mine and I think in all other indifferent judgement / all one: and if they were not / yet as I have showed / you have said both the one / and the other.

Here he accusethe me of falsifying his wordes / whiche haue ⟨p. LXXII⟩charged him vvith saying / that yt ys an indifferent thinge to preache the worde of God in churches or howses priuately or publikely: wherin he still vttereth his forheade / harder then any steele. For thes being his owne wordes / that the scripture speaketh not a worde of preaching or baptizing, openly or priuately, at home or in the church: doothe he not saye the same that I laye vnto him. What ys indifferent / yf that be not / vvhich the scripture saithe not a vvorde of / hathe not prescribed / hathe not determined / hathe not appointed? all vvhiche phrases he vseth / as those which signifie the same thinge. And when he addethe in the ende / that there is none so symple, that vnderstandeth, not that the churche hathe authoritie to take order in thes thinges: dooth he not affirme the same? for the churche hathe authoritie onely in indifferent thinges to take order. So that it is more manifeste then the daie / that which I haue charged him with ones / he hathe saide twise / althowghe not in the same / yet in as full vvordes. And where he asketh / whether yt be all one to saye / the scripture hathe not determined whether baptisme should be ministred opēly or priuately, at home or in the churche, and to saye / the churche maye make baptisme priuate or publike: verelie they are in mine and I thinke in all other indifferent iudgement / all one: and iff they were not / yet as I haue shewed / yow haue saide bothe the one / and the other.