A18080:208
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Caput 2. Division 1. pag. 95.
Caput 2. Diuision 1. pag. 95.
IF he would have proved / that which I deny: he should have showed / that thes authorities affirmed / that the church in making laws off things / whereof the scripture hath not precisely determined / need not to have respect to the general commandments off the scripture before received. but that he is not able to do with any approved sentence. And albeit / he hath subscribed to this sentence before: yet in the end off this division / he beginneth to s•lyde into his former error / saying / that in matters not prescribed in the scripture, he can not tell whether to resort, to know the use and antiquity of them, but unto councils, stories, and doctors. As though the scripture were not the lord star unto the church / in her decrees touching such things: and as though the first churches which had not such stories &c. had not sufficient address in the light off the word off God / to make constitutions by. I grant the church by stories &c. understandeth of their antiquity: but the knowledge of their antiquity maketh little or nothing to know / how profitable / or convenient for the church they be: which being that only / which is looked into in there establishing / is drawn from the scriptures / and not from antiquity. Howbeit because he pretendeth agreement in this / that there be certain things left unto the order of the church with this condition / that they be done according to the general commandments off the Scripture: we will hold him by his former words / and will not suffer him to break from us / unless he do not only privily nibble and bite about / but in manifest words eat up / his former saying. Notwithstanding in the great plenty the A. hath off places / for the proof ⟨p. LXXVII⟩off this which we deny not: let it be observed / what partly unproper / partly ungodly choice / he hath made.