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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And that this was Augustine's meaning / appeareth manifestly by the place which I alleged / out of his book against the donatists. 1Where he saith / that all those things which the church holdeth generally, are to be holden as precepts off the Apostles, although they be not written: whereunto he answereth nothing. And by that place / the folly off the answerer whereby he would tune Augustin by master Calvins wrest / is more plainly discovered. For where he would have us think that August understood those traditions only / which pertain to order / and polity / that may be varied / and not unto doctrine: it is manifest / that Augustin in that place saith / that the Apostles ⟨p. LXXXVII⟩gave commandment, touching the not rebaptizing off those which were baptized by Heretics, and that the custom of off the church in not rebaptizing, which was objected against Cyprian, had the beginning off the Apostles tradition. Now I would know off the answerer / whether he dare say / that this judgement off rebaptizing / be off traditions / which may be changed: or whether there can be any just cause / wherefore this may be altered? And if he dare not say this / then let him confess his fault / and not seek to make up his breaches / by such untempered mortar.
And that this was Augustines meaning / appeareth manifestly by the place which I alledged / out of his booke againste the donatistes. 1Where he saithe / that all those thinges vvhich the churche houldeth generally, are to be houlden as praeceptes off the Apostels, althovvghe they be not vvriten: wherunto he answereth nothing. And by that place / the folie off the answerer wherby he woulde tune Augustin by maister Caluins wreste / is more plainly discouered. For where he wolde haue vs thinke that August vnderstood those traditions onely / which perteine to order / and politie / that may be varied / and not vnto doctrine: yt is manifest / that Augustin in that place saithe / that the Apostels ⟨p. LXXXVII⟩gaue commaundement, tovvching the not rebaptising off those vvhiche vvere baptized by Heretikes, and that the custome of off the churche in not rebaptizing, vvhich vvas obiected against Cyprian, had the beginning off the Apostels tradition. Nowe I would knowe off the answerer / whether he dare saye / that this iudgement off rebaptizing / be off traditions / which may be chaunged: or whether there can be any iust cawse / wherefore this may be altered? And if he dare not saye this / then let him confesse his faut / and not seeke to make vp his breaches / by sutche vntempered morter.