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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The place off Augustine / off abrogating ceremonies otherwise indifferent / he answereth / was not for his purpose. Howbeit / ⟨p. XCI⟩of his purpose had been / to have bolted out the truth: it •• clear / that having this cause in hand whether ceremonies in them selves indifferent / ought to be removed: he would not have dissembled it. As for that he chargeth me / with leaving out off things before / in the middest / and after / and thereof hath almost filled a whole side: it is utterly unworthy any answer / considering that I have left nothing out / which is in controversy / nothing which I do not willingly confess / nothing that he hath any advantage by: yea I left that out / whereby I could have taken advantage. For beside that the ceremonies with us are in greater number / then August. alloweth / all men see / that they are more urged / and the omitting off them severelier punished / then the breach off the commandments off God: in which case he will have them abrogated. For he scapeth far better / which hath not preached a whole half year in his church / then which preaching every week twice / leaveth off his surplice once. And it is better with him / whose whole life / then whose cap is out off square: which is enemy off the cross off Christ / then which can not abide the cross in baptism: with those which leave out some ceremony / in burying the bodies off the dead / then with those which murder the souls off the living. All which things / the place of Augustine giving me occasion off. I notwithstanding for shortness sake / passed by.
The place off Augustine / off abrogating ceremonies otherwise indifferent / he answereth / was not for his pourpose. Howbeyt / ⟨p. XCI⟩of his pourpose had bene / to haue boulted owt the truthe: yt •• cleare / that hauing this cawse in hand whether ceremonies in them selues indifferent / owght to be remoued: he would not haue dissembled yt. As for that he chargeth me / with leuing owt off thinges before / in the middest / and after / and thereof hath almoste fylled a whole syde: it is vtterly vnworthy any answere / considering that I haue left nothing owt / which is in controuersie / nothing which I doo not willingly confesse / nothing that he hathe any aduantage by: yea I left that owt / whereby I could haue taken aduantage. For beside that the ceremonies with vs are in greater nomber / then August. alloweth / all men see / that they are more vrged / and the omitting off them seuerelier punished / then the breache off the commaundementes off God: in which case he will haue them abrogated. For he scapeth far better / which hath not preached a whole halfe yeare in his church / then which preaching euery weeke twise / leueth off his surplis once. And yt is better with him / whose whole liffe / then whose capp is owt off square: vvhich is ennemie off the crosse off Christe / then which can not abyde the crosse in baptisme: with those which leaue owt some ceremonie / in burying the bodyes off the dead / then vvith those vvhich murder the soules off the liuing. All which thinges / the place of Augustine giuing me occasion off. I notwithstanding for shortnes sake / passed by.