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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Unto the two next divisions / pag. 117 / &c. Where I have showed the places off Deut. 4. 12. are still in force / against the error off the A. which (in saying / that in the time of the Jews, and during that estate, it was not lawful to add any thing, &c.) giveth to understand / that ⟨p. XCIII⟩we are not so strictly bound unto it at this time: he answereth / that he applied that rule, unto the law off faith, and manners▪ but he should have understanded / that in restraining the rule after that sort / thereby shutting out the laws off making orders / and ceremonies off the church: he still falleth into that fault / whereof he is accused. For having showed / that not only in things which he calleth matters off faith / and manners / but even in the variable Ceremonies off the church / there is a word off God: it is also true / that he is accursed, which in making orders off the church / followeth not the rule off the laws off God / provided in that behalf. And I having showed / that the Jews them selves had certain Ecclesiastical Ceremonies in marriage / burial / &c. which are not expressly commanded unto them: if they (as he confesseth) had address out off the word off God / for all their laws off what sort soever and this curse fell off them / if in their variable laws they ether added or diminished from the word of God: it must needs follow / that the Christians now in their variable laws / both have a word to direct them / and a curse for either adding / or diminishing from that word. Onles he will say / that the Christians / in things which were a like left unto the liberty off them / and the Jews / are less bound to follow the prescript off the word off God / then were the Jews: which is absurd.
Vnto the two next diuisions / pag. 117 / &c. Where I haue shewed the places off Deut. 4. 12. are still in force / against the error off the A. which (in saing / that in the time of the Iewes, and during that estate, yt was not lawefull to adde any thing, &c.) gyueth to vnderstand / that ⟨p. XCIII⟩we are not so streightly bound vnto yt at this tyme: he answereth / that he applied that rule, vnto the lawe off faithe, and manners but he shoulde haue vnderstanded / that in restraining the rule after that sorte / therby shutting owt the lawes off making orders / and ceremonies off the church: he still falleth into that fault / whereoff he is accused. For hauing shewed / that not onely in thinges which he calleth matters off faithe / and manners / but euen in the variable Ceremonies off the church / there ys a worde off God: yt is also true / that he is accursed, which in making orders off the church / foloweth not the rule off the lawes off God / prouided in that behalfe. And I hauing shewed / that the Iewes them selues had certen Ecclesiasticall Ceremonies in mariadge / buriall / &c. which are not expressly commanded vnto them: yf they (as he confesseth) had addresse owt off the word off God / for all their lawes off what sorte soeuer and this curse fell off them / if in their variable lawes they ether added or diminished from the word of God: yt muste needes folowe / that the Christians nowe in their variable lawes / bothe haue a word to direct them / and a curse for either adding / or diminishing from that word. Onles he will saie / that the Christians / in thinges which were a like left vnto the libertie off them / and the Iewes / are les bownd to folowe the prescript off the worde off God / then were the Iewes: which ys absurd.