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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
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And where as he saith / that it being extraordinary, is not off necessity to be followed; he should have said / that being extraordinary / it ought not to be followed. Now when he granteth them to be such as may be used / although not necessarily: he concludeth against him self / that they are not extraordinary. for as those things which are ordinary in the word off God / ought to be followed: so those things that are extraordinary are by no means of us / without an extraordinary spirit / to be followed: things which may be done / or left undone / are nether ordinary / nor extraordinary / but have a mean nature between both. But as it is in in proverb / the eagle ketcheth no flies: Master D. hath greater matters in hand then thes: and yet to keep the propriety of speech / profiteth much / to the keeping off the pureness of doctrine.
And where as he saithe / that yt being extraordinary, is not off necessitie to be followed; he should haue saide / that being extraordinary / yt owght not to be followed. Now vvhen he graunteth them to be suche as may be vsed / althowghe not necessaryly: he concludeth against him selfe / that they are not extraordinary. for as those thinges whiche are ordinarie in the worde off God / owght to be followed: so those thinges that are extraordinary are by no meanes of vs / withowt an extraordinary spirite / to be followed: thinges whiche may be doone / or lefte vndoone / are nether ordinary / nor extraordinari / but haue a meane nature betweene bothe. But as it is in in prouerbe / the egle ketcheth no flies: Maister D. hathe greater matters in hande then thes: and yet to keepe the proprietie of speche / profiteth muche / to the keping off the pure nes of doctrine.
But the words off master Calvin (saith he) are plain. So they are in deed / plain to show your great untruth / and plain to show that which I contend for: that is / that although some things are not to be followed: yet other some things in this election / are and ought to serve / for the direction off the election off the ministers now. And because you shall not abuse the reader / nether with the denial off things to be so / which are manifest / nor guileful escapes / wherewith you go about to defeat the authorities which I allege: although it be much against my will / to lengthen my book with translating so thick / and three fold of other mens sentences into mine: yet being driven to it / I had rather be somewhat troublesome to the reader: then that your unhonest practises should not appear / to all that will not willingly close there eyes against the truth. But before I cum to master Calvin / I will set down Cyprian's words which are there commended by master Calvin. Cyprian therefore (speaking off the election of a Minister) writeth amongest other things / thus. God commandeth that the priest should be placed before the face off the whole congregation off the Jews: that is to