The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Now I come to master Calvin. After he hath in the 13. section / showed that the election off the Apostle into Judas place / is no certain rule for our elections: he showeth further wherein ¹it is no rule: namely / for that the election there was committed to lot / the vocation off an Apostle so requiring / that by the judgement off the lot / as it were by Gods own mouth / a successor might be appointed in steed off Judas. But in the 14. section / he showeth the lord so approveth off the judgment off men (which he after expoundeth the church) that even in the Apostles appointment / which have this prerogative that they should be created immediately from God / the judgment off the church should not be passed by: and to that end citeth the 13. off the acts and 2. verse / and this place off the first off the acts and 23. verse / and off those places gathereth a perpetual document / to establish the discipline / and order off the church in elections / for ever. Whereby appeareth / that master Calvins mind / is not (as the doctor would make us believe) that there can nothing be gathered out off this place / pertaining to our elections.

Now I come to maister Caluin. After he hathe in the 13. section / shewed that the election off the Apostell into Iudas place / is no certaine rule for our elections: he sheweth further whearin ¹yt is no rule: namely / for that the election there was committed to lotte / the vocation off an Apostell so requiring / that by the iudgement off the lotte / as yt were by Gods owne mowthe / a successour might be appointed in steed off Iudas. But in the 14. section / he sheweth the lorde so approuethe off the iudgment off men (vvhich he after expoundeth the churche) that euen in the Apostels appointement / vvhich haue this prerogatiue that they shoulde be created immediatly from God / the iudgment off the churche shoulde not be passed by: and to that endecitethe the 13. off the actes and 2. verse / and this place off the first off the actes and 23. verse / and off those places gathereth a perpetuall document / to establishe the discipline / and order off the churche in elections / for euer. Whearby appeareth / that maister Caluins minde / is not (as the doctor woulde make vs beleue) that ther can nothing be gathered out off this place / perteining to our elections.

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