A18080:316
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he saith / Surely if any one man, or mo be void off such affections, and thought meet to have such matters committed unto him, it is the ⟨p. CXXX⟩Bishop: it had been good he had assured that Surely: with some reason: otherwise it must (as it is) be holden for an unshamfaste begging / of that which is denied. And off the same sort is that which followeth / that if he be worthy the office off a bishop, he may safely be credited, with all things incident unto the same: for this is that which lieth between us: whether it be incident to the office off a bishop to have the only examination off those, which are chosen to the ministry. Which if I could give you: I would / to be rid off thes importunate askings.
Where he saithe / Surely if any one man, or mo be voyd off such affefections, and thought meet to haue such matters committed vnto him, yt is the ⟨p. CXXX⟩Bishopp: yt had bene good he had assured that Surely: with some reason: otherwise yt must (as yt is) be holden for an vnshamfaste begging / of that which is denied. And off the same sorte is that which followeth / that if he be worthie the office off a bishope, he maie safely be credited, with al thinges incidēt vnto the same: for this is that which lieth between vs: whether yt be incident to the office off a bishoppe to haue thonely examination off those, which are chosen to the ministerie. Which yff I coulde geue you: I woulde / to be ridd off thes importunat askinges.
Y• followeth not / because civill matters which touch the commodity off this life / may be committed to one: therefore ecclesiastical also / which concern the life to come / may be so hazarded. Nay for so much as mans insight into civil affairs / and judgement in them / is sharper then in matters pertaining to the church: it is clear / that there ye more help required in thes / then in the other. Besides that / when as princes by taking counsels unto them in their weighty affairs off the whole realm / and for better deciding off private mens causes / appoint whole be ches off Justices / standing off five / or six: they do sufficiently declare thereby / how they have the Judgement off one (be he never so wise) greatly in suspicion off error.