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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
you have yet brought nothing / to show why he ought not to have the assistance off others / in the examination off the minister. S. Paul refuseth not to learn of the 1church off God / in those things wherein he went as far beyond the bishop, as any bishop can go beyond the simplest of his diocese. Apollos was instructed / and taught of a powre handicrafts 2man / and his wife. In the council of Nice / a simple man / and one that knew nothing but Jesus Christ / both overturned / and turned a Philosopher / whom all the 318. Bishops / could not move. both S. Paul / and Apollos / and the 318. Bishops / were off Singular knowledge in those things / wherein they were aided / and desired to be aided / off those which were a great deal inferior unto them. What honey have our bishops eaten off / that they can see so clearly / into the fitness off a minister: that the church off God / can not both see that which they see / and that also which they have overseen? Belike it is / because our bishops are more sharper of Sight / then ever any were: and our churches ⟨p. CXXXII⟩more ignorant then any have been before. And if the churches were taught of them (wherein they are for the most part / smallest beholding unto them): as the plentiful knowledge of the church / should have been a seal of their abundance: so what soever is said off the ignorance / argueth now the want of their knowledge / and in the end returneth to the weight of their condemnation. Which if it were well considered of him: it seemeth / that for the jalousie he hath over the estate of a Lord Bishop, he would have spoken more reverently off the church.
yowe haue yet browghte nothinge / to shewe why he owghte not to haue the assistaunce off others / in the examination off the minister. S. Paule refusethe not to learne of the 1churche off God / in those thinges wherin he wente as farr beionde the bishope, as any bishope can goe beionde the simplest of his diocese. Apollos was instructed / and tawghte of a powre handycraftes 2man / and his wiffe. In the counsell of Nice / a simple man / and one that knewe nothinge but Iesus Christe / bothe ouerturned / ād turned a Philosopher / whome all the 318. Bishopes / coulde not moue. bothe S. Paule / and Apollos / and the 318. Bishopes / were off Singuler knowledge in those thinges / wherin they were aided / and desired to be aided / off those which were a great deale inferior vnto them. What honie haue our bishoppes eaten off / that they can see so clearly / into the fitnes off a minister: that the churche off God / can not bothe see that whiche they see / and that also whiche they haue ouerseene? Belike yt is / because our bishopes are more sharper of Sighte / then euer any were: and our churches