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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
If he be condemned off the Apostle / which judgeth off one ⟨p. CXXXIIII⟩1mans action before the time / that is before he seeth what it i• ▪ what great presumption is it / thus to judge the church off God? And therefore that I be no partaker off your sin / and plague / which (without repentance ensueth): I answer that I think they will choose the metest: that they will follow the lord / before the lord of the town, if the lord off the town draw not with the Lord: that they will not do one off their neighbours pleasure, to the dishonour off the lord / and the hurt off all them selves / and the whole congregation: that the peace off God / not contention will be in the church off God: that they being the church off God / and the mystical body off our Saviour Christ / shall have an able / and fit pastor / if they have one like unto them selves: and so shall be like people, like pastor. And if a whole church assembled together in the fear off God / with invocation off his name / be overcaried by affection off love / or fear / to chose him that is unmeet / the bishop may much more / being but one man / subject to the same passions they be: onles you can haply show some prerogative / to exempt him from the common infection. So for any thing yet alleged / the light off reason / rather favoureth the election off the minister by many / then by one. Now let us see whether the holy scriptures / whereupon we lay the weight off this election / receive any better answer.
Yf he be condemned off the Apostell / which iudgeth off one ⟨p. CXXXIIII⟩1mans action before the time / that is before he seeth what it i• ▪ what great presumption ys it / thus to iudge the churche off God? And therfore that I be no partaker off yowr sinne / and plage / which (withowt repentance ensueth): I answer that I thinke they will chuse the meteste: that they will followe the lorde / before the lorde of the towne, yf the lorde off the towne drawe not with the Lorde: that they will not doe one off their neighbours pleasure, to the dishonour off the lorde / and the hurte off all them selues / and the whole congregation: that the peace off God / not contention will be in the churche off God: that they being the church off God / and the mysticall bodie off our fauiour Christe / shall haue an hable / and fit pastor / if they haue one lyke vnto them selues: and so shalbe like people, like pastor. And iff a whole churche assembled together in the feare off God / with inuocation off his name / be ouercaried by affection off loue / or feare / to chose him that ys vnmeet / the bishope maie muche more / beinge but one man / subiecte to the same passions they be: onles yow can happely shewe some prerogatiue / to exempte him from the common infection. So for any thinge yet alleadged / the lighte off reason / rather fauoureth the election off the minister by many / then by one. Nowe let vs see whether the holie scriptures / wheruppon wee laie the weighte off this election / receiue any better answer.