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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Touching the interpretation off the words of the Apostle / that the ministers being tied, should execute their functions, as long as they continue unblameable: I toke the sense which was fit for my cause / and neither against the scope off the Apostle / nor any grammar construction. You say the greek is / if in trial 1they be found blameless. Because you tie me so fast unto the number of words / where have you this translation? or in the greek words you allege / what have you to bear thes words (in trial? or show me why I may not / as well resolve the participle into ⟨p. CLXIIII⟩the coniunctine mode / by the conjunction (so long as) as by the conjunction (if): as long as I do it / neither against the truth / nor against the purpose off the Apostle. I grant that sense true / but why may not this also be joined: seeing both the words / and scope off the Apostle / will bear both? you should therefore have showed / that these words will not bear this sense / and if you show me that / yet can you not put me from hold of that place. For as much as it is most justly concluded / that if the ministers must be blameless / before they come to the ministry▪ they ought much more so to be / in the execution off it: considering that falls in execution off the ministry / are more dangerous to the church / then those before.
Touchinge the interpretation off the wordes of the Apostle / that the ministers being tied, should execute their functions, as longe as they continue vnblameable: I toke the sense vvhich was fyt for my cause / and neither against the scope off the Apostle / nor any grammer construction. Yow saye the greke is / if in triall 1they be found blamelesse. Because yow tie me so fast vnto the nombre of wordes / where haue yow this translation? or in the greeke wordes yow alledge / what haue yow to beare thes wordes (in triall? or shew me whie I may not / as well resolue the participle into ⟨p. CLXIIII⟩the coniunctine mode / by the coniunction (so longe as) as by the coniunction (if): as longe as I doo it / neither against the trewth / nor against the purpose off the Apostle. I graunt that sense trew / but why may not this also be ioyned: seing bothe the wordes / and scope off the Apostle / will beare bothe? yow should therfore haue shewed / that these wordes will not beare this sense / and yf yow shew me that / yet can yow not put me from houlde of that place. For as muche as yt is most iustlie concluded / that if the ministers must be blamelesse / before they come to the ministerie they owght muche more so to be / in the execution off it: considering that falles in execution off the ministerie / are more daungerous to the church / then those before.