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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
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Wherefore hath he brought in here / that there was certain time off repentance appointed in Cyprian's time, &c. doth any body deny it? or maketh it any thing to his purpose? That which he he should have proved / he to wchethe not. For against that he said / Off the examples off the primitive church, in restoring off those unto their ministry, which had fallen unto Idolatry: I have showed the use off the most ancientest times / and he bringeth nothing at all / but only affirmeth those things / which no man denieth / and make nothing to the purpose.
Wherfore hathe he browghte in here / that there was certaine tyme off repentance appointed in Cyprians time, &c. doothe anye bodie denie yt? or maketh yt any thinge to his purpose? That whiche he he shoulde haue proued / he to wchethe not. For againste that he saide / Off the examples off the primatiue churche, in restoringe off those vnto their mynisterie, whiche had fallen vnto Idolatrie: I haue shewed the vse off the moste ancientest tymes / and he bringeth nothinge at all / but onely affirmeth those thinges / which no man deniethe / and make nothing to the purpose.
The council off Carthage (which ordained that none might be received again to the ministry / which had defiled him self with Idolatry) is here rejected: the reason whereof is also added / for that the same Council decreed, rebaptizing off those which were baptized by Heretics: The Ans. may throw away the authority off a council / because of an error in it / without either scripture / Doctor / or council: when I do it / not without either all thes authorities / or at the lest / off the scripture: it is cried out against / as an unlearned shift, and I can not tell what. But I am contented you shall throw a way the council off Carthage / which established that error: yet you shall not throw away that / wherein it was agreed / against restoring off ministers / fallen into Idolatry. How so? Because they were decreed in several councils. For proof thereof / I allege the words off Cyprian. And when there be other both many / and grievous faults / where with 1Basilides / and Marshal are inwrapped: such do in vain goo about