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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
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For his judgement off certain preachers now, massmongers in Queen Mary's times, comparable with any in the land: I leave to speak of it. For seeing he hath a several divinity from others / he must be suffered also to frame his judgement thereafter. The slanderous untruths / that are here uttered / I will not defile my pen with. Off the places off Deuter. and Ezekiel I have spoken. Howe the judicial law / is in the power off the magistrate / is declared / and here was no place to speak off it. Forasmuch as the question is here / off the discipline off the church / and not off civill punishments: and whether the church ought to admit a minister / that hath fallen unto Idolatry. The next section / I leave to the judgement off the reader. The next unto that / is answered before in the first tract. and 6. chap.
For his iudgemente off certeine preachers nowe, massmongers in Queen Maries times, comparable with any in the lande: I leue to speake of it. For seinge he hathe a seuerall diuinitie from others / he muste be suffred also to frame his iudgemente therafter. The sclanderous vntrwthes / that are here vttered / I will not defile my penne withe. Off the places off Deuter. and Ezechiel I haue spoken. Howe the iudiciall lawe / is in the powre off the magistrate / is declared / and here was no place to speake off it. Forasmuche as the question is here / off the discipline off the churche / and not off ciuill punishmentes: and whether the churche owghte to admit a minister / that hathe fallen vnto Idolatrie. The nexte section / I leue to the iudgemente off the reader. The nexte vnto that / is answered before in the first tract. and 6. chap.
It was a great part off Alexander's commendation / that 1he was fierce in fight / and gentle in victory. The D. is clean contrary. For a lam is not so meek / and so tame as he is in his disputation / and reasoning: but in his triumphs / although false / and imagined / there is nothing more fierce. To bear out all this storm off words / profane Philosopher, and drunken poet, &c. There is not so much as one Philosopher / profane / or divine / one Poet / sober / or drunken / to improve that the gentiles, did never take oxen, serpents, fire, water, &c, to be god: or, that they toke the Images before which they fell, for wood, stone, &c. If I