A18080:449
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And where the D. reasoneth off the 15. verse / upon the words I toke, &c. that phrase doth rather overthrow his purpose / then confirm it: for it seemeth to have a relation / to the giving / and presenting of those which they they had chosen. And the very same Phrase is used afterwards in the 23. vers. of the spies which were sent to spy the land: which notwithstanding were not only sent off Moses / but off the people also / as appeareth in the 22. verse / and in the book off numbers: where the lord doth not 1only attribute / this sending off spies / unto Moses: but unto the people. Moses gave no further authority unto them: then they which in ecclesiastical elections / ordain those which were chosen before / and confirm the elections which are made. Therefore as those ordinations exclude not the authority off election: so this confirmation off Moses / did not devour that power off election / which he had gyued them: but their elections / and his confirmation / made up a full creation of those governors. Touching the false accusation off pushing at the magistrate / I have answered.
And where the D. reasoneth off the 15. verse / vpon the wordes I toke, &c. that phrase dothe rather ouerthrowe his purpose / then cōfirme yt: for it semethe to haue a relation / to the gyuinge / ād presentinge of those whiche they they had chosen. And the very same Phrase is vsed afterwardes in the 23. vers. of the spies whiche were sente to spie the lande: which notwithstandinge were not onely sente off Moyses / but off the people also / as appeareth in the 22. verse / and in the booke off numbers: where the lorde doothe not 1onely attribute / this sendinge off spies / vnto Moises: but vnto the people. Moyses gaue no further authoritie vnto them: then they whiche in ecclesiasticall elections / ordeine those whiche were chosen before / and confirme the elections whiche are made. Therfore as those ordinations exclude not the authoritie off election: so this confirmation off Moyses / did not deuoure that powre off election / whiche he had gyued them: but theyr elections / and his confirmation / made vp a full creation of those gouernours. Towchinge the false accusation off pushing at the magistrate / I haue answered.
- 113. Num. vers. 3.