A18080:452
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
If the Answ. could have first given his reader a drink off the river off forgetfulness, to have made him forget what he ought to prove / peradventure this talk off his might have some end: but if he carry in mind that he hath to prove / that almost all ecclesiastical writers do affirm, the word lifting up of hands to be used in the scriptures, for the solemn manner off ordaining ministers 1by imposition off hands, and not for the election by voices: I say if he carry this in mind / he shall perceive easily / how idle for the ⟨p. CC⟩most part / this talk is. And verily all thes authorities here brought / are either vain: or directly against him self: or in sufficient to prove that / which he undertaketh. For to what purpose are here alleged / two places out off master Calvin / two Canons given to the Apostles / and the Testimony off Jerome? They prove that lifting up off hands, is taken in ecclesiastical writers 2for imposition off hands / which is confessed by me in plain words: But to the performance off your promise / that almost all the ecclesiastical writers affirm, that this word is so taken in scripture: yet there is not one syllable. In this rank also off idle testimonies / is that whole section off master Gualter. For I confessed him to think / that the word was so taken: but yet so that withal / he joineth the election off the people by voices: Which the Answ. would by that signification off the word / overthrow. So that all thes brought in off the D. look another way / then he would have them.
Yf the Answ. coulde haue firste gyuen his reader a drinke off the riuer off forgetfulnes, to haue made him forgette what he owghte to proue / peraduenture this talke off his mighte haue some ende: but iff he carie in minde that he hathe to proue / that almoste al ecclesiasticall writers doo affirme, the word liftihg vp of handes to be vsed in the scriptures, for the solemne manner off ordeining ministers 1by imposition off handes, and not for the election by voices: I say iff he cary this in minde / he shall perceiue easely / howe idle for the ⟨p. CC⟩