A18080:482
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
First therefore let us hold that (which I think is accorded off both parts) that Cyprian's purpose is to withdraw the people / from communicating with the ministry off those / which had fallen from the gospel unto Idolatry. To the confirmation whereof when he had alleged / the grievousness off that crime: he addeth / especially seeing the people have power to choose worthy, and to refuse unworthy ministers. As if he should say / if it were not in your power / to refuse those unworthy ministers / you might have some excuse: or if being in your power to refuse the unworthy / you had not also power to choose another worthy / you might have likewise somewhat for excuse. For you might allege peradventure / that it were better to keep him still / then to be with out altogether / or to have another as evil / or worse then he. but seeing you have both power to refuse the unworthy / and to a choose another: there must needs be fault. That this is the meaning off Cyprian / and his argument wherewith he calleth them back / from communicating with the ministry off those which had fallen: all which can set the nominative case / and verb together / must needs understand.
Firste therfore let vs holde that (vvhich I thincke is accorded off both partes) that Cyprians purpose is to withdrawe the people / from communicatinge with the ministrie off those / which had fallen from the gospell vnto Idolatrie. To the confirmation vvheroff vvhen he had alleadged / the greuousnes off that crime: he addethe / especially seinge the people haue povvre to chuse vvorthie, and to refuse vnvvorthie ministers. As if he shoulde saie / if it vvere not in yowr powre / to refuse those vnworthie ministers / yow mighte haue some excuse: or if beinge in yowr powre to refuse the vnworthie / yow had not also powre to chuse another worthy / yow mighte haue likwise somewhat for excuse. For yow mighte alledge peraduenture / that it vvere better to kepe him stil / then to be vvith owte altogether / or to haue a nother as euill / or worse then he. but seinge yow haue bothe power to refuse the vnworthly / and to a chuse a nother: there muste needes befaulte. That this is the meaninge off Cyprian / and his argumente wherwith he calleth them backe / from communicatinge vvith the ministrie off those vvhich had fallen: all vvhich can set the nominatiue case / and verbe together / muste needes vnderstande.