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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And here it is again to be observed / that this is another off the popish shifts. for unto Luther (which allegeth that the people ought to choose there minister / lest the church should 1despise / or hath him which is thrust upon it / whilst it might not have him whom it desired) Pighius answereth that the meaning off those words be / that the people should be present / and bear witness: and the same answer is made by other Papists / to other testimonies which are brought. This by the way that it may be known / from whence the Ans. provision cometh.
And here yt is againe to be obserued / that this is another off the popishe shiftes. for vnto Luther (whiche alledgeth that the people owghte to chuse there minister / leste the churche shoulde 1despise / or hathe him vvhich is thruste vppon it / vvhilest it mighte not haue him whom yt desyred) Pighius answereth that the meaninge off those wordes be / that the people shoulde be presente / and beare witnes: and the same answer is made by other Papistes / to other testimonies which are browghte. This by the waie that it maie be knowen / from whence the Ans. prouision comethe.
Now to proceed: Where he saith / that the people had no voices in Eleazar's election: I ask him how he proveth that. If he answer because it is not mentioned in the scripture / he hath answered him self more then twenty times / when he sayeth / that it is an evil argument to reason negatively off the scriptures. Let him now take this answer / That there was no like necessity off examining Eleazar's ministry by voices / as there is off other ecclesiastical election: