A18080:497
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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but by the vvill off the king, according to the election off the clergy, and off the people, as it is contained in the ancient canons, that the bishop should be ordained by consent of the clergy, and of the metropolitan, or him that he vvill appoint, together with the bishops of the same province. And after / Besides this according as the old canons have decreed, no bishop may be given unto the people against their vvill: nether by oppression of mighty men, which is detestable, let the citizens, or clergy be drawn to give their consent. And thus much for answer to your Councils.
but by the vvill off the kinge, accordinge to the election off the clergie, and off the people, as it is conteined in the auncient canons, that the bishop shoulde be ordeined by consente of the clergie, and of the metrapolitā, or him that he vvill appoincte, together vvith the bishops of the same prouince. And after / Besides this accordinge as the olde canons haue decreed, no bishopp maie be gyuen vnto the people againste their vvill: nether by oppression of mighty men, vvhiche is detestable, let the cytisens, or clergie be dravven to gyue their consente. And thus muche for answer to yowr Councels.
To fetch a commandment out off the book off numbers, is to fetch it out off the highest court off heaven: And I was not constrained unto it / for off more then half a score reasons brought / whether one off them be once moved by you / I leave it to be judged. This commandment pinched you so / that albeit you pretend laughter: yet I doubt not but it is *Sardon's laughter / that is to say / from the teethe outward. where you say / there is no word which signifieth an election: it is your old boldness / off denying that which is as clear / as the none days. Where also you say / that it speaking off laying on off hands, can make nothing for the election ⟨p. CCXXI⟩off the church: I beseech you sir how do you prove / that Timothy hath the choice of ministers? is it not by thes words /