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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And where you say / that even that law admitteth divers exceptions: that is not material. For I lay not so much weight of this sentence / as though the cause should rise / and fall with it. I meant that as much credit might grow unto the cause by this / as by a proverb which is true For the most part: off which kind off reasons not only orators / but the scripture it self divers times useth. And therefore if I gain by this law / that the ordinary choice off ministers / ought to be by the people: I hath at I looked for. But it is to be observed / that where the A found fault with me / for mitigating the necessity off the word ought, by this exception if it may be: he notwithstanding allegeth four exceptions, whereby the necessity which he saith that word importeth / is quite overthrown. And if those conditions be true: then be like I did well understand the word ought, the understanding whereof he can not afford me. It is well you be no lawyer. For you that are so liberal off a dinners talk / as to tell us off Many together, and Many severally, with so many exceptions to so small purpose: if you had been studied that 1ways / would have troubled us all. for then it is like we should have had always Cesar / for Christ / and Paul the lawyer / for Saint Paul the Apostle.
And where yow saie / that euen that lawe admitteth diuers exceptions: that is not materiall. For I laie not so muche weighte of this sentence / as thowghe the cause should rise / and fall vvith it. I mente that as much credite mighte growe vnto the cause by this / as by a prouerbe which is trewe For the moste part: off which kinde off reasons not onely orators / but the scripture yt selfe diuers times vseth. And therfore if I gaine by this lawe / that the ordinarie choise off ministers / owght to be by the people: I hath at I loked for. But yt is to be obserued / that where the A founde faulte vvith me / for mitigatinge the necessitie off the worde ought, by this exception if it maie be: he notwithstandinge alledgeth fowre exceptions, wherby the necessitie which he saithe that worde importeth / is quite ouerthrowne. And if those condicions be trewe: then be like I did well vnderstande the worde ought, the vnderstandinge wheroff he can not aforde me. Yt is well you be no lawier. For yowe that are so liberall off a dinners talke / as to tell vs off Many together, and Many senerally, with so many exceptions to so smale pourpose: if yow had beene studied that 1