A18080:512
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
I doubt not that wise men do see your folly / which being so unskilful of the government of the church / the knowledge whereof you do profess: vvill take upon you as Phormio unto Hannibal / to prescribe what form of government / must be used in the common wealth. And if it were not beside my profession / I could show that it agreeth most both with the definition of a citizen / which those give which handle this matter / and with the practise off the best governed cities / that the citizens should have this interest off choice off their Mayors / and Bailiffs: confirmed by experience off dangerous seditions / and separations from the common wealth / which have happened by abridging the people off this / and such liberties. But for so much as it belongeth not unto a divine / to meddle with those / but to content him self with what form off government soever (so it be lawful) thought good to those / to whom the ordering of that doth pertain: I leave to speak of that matter. But a man may smell the D. far off. For this is put in for defence off that spoil / which he / and others by untrue surmises / most unnaturally made in the university / when to the end the Idleness / covetousness / and ambition of certain might be the more secure / and without check they by their long / and crooked talons / seized upon the authority off the University Senate.
I dowbte not that wise men doo see yowr folie / vvhich beinge so vnskilfull of the gouernment of the churche / the knowledge vvherof you doo professe: vvill take vpon yow as Phormio vnto Haniball / to prescribe vvhat forme of gouernemente / muste be vsed in the commen vvealth. And if it vvere not beside my profession / I coulde shewe that it agreeth moste bothe with the definition of a cytisen / vvhich those gyue vvhich handell this matter / and vvith the practise off the beste gouerned cities / that the cytisens should haue this intereste off choise off their Maiors / and Bailifes: confirmed by experience off daungerous seditions / and seperatiōs from the cōmen wealth / which haue happened by abridginge the people off this / and suche liberties. But for somuche as yt belongethe not vnto a diuine / to medle with those / but to contente him selfe with what forme off gouernemente soeuer (so it be lawfull) thowght good to those / to whom the orderinge of that doothe perteine: I leaue to speake of that matter. But a man maye smell the D. farre off. For this is put in for defence off that spoile / which he / and others by vntrew surmises / moste vnnaturally made in the vniuersitie / when to thende the Idlenes / couetousnes / and ambition of certeine might be the more secure / and without checke they by their longe / and crooked talones / seased vpon the authoritie off the Vniuersitie Senate.